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If everyone says
"ain't a damn thing can be done to stop the tyranny so why bother fighting",
they win.

Is that OK with you?

yup... and you know why... the vast majority of the populations are completely oblivious to how horrible the systems are.... so give them a taste of real in your face totalitarianism for a few decades, take away every stitch of freedom, force the hard reality of no freedom upon them and give them a lesson that will never ever be forgotten so they never ever allow corrupted government ever again.

the usa and britain are so damn close to that reality and only need an 'event' to ply the public into total and absolute control.

also, you know whose going to ask for the freedoms to be taken away... the public and they will applaud and cheer when it happens.

You're right, and wrong.

Right that "the populations are completely oblivious", you nailed it dead center.
But it's hard to blame people for that when they are fed poo right from birth, and are saturated in it their entire lives.

Wrong that a dose of tyranny will fix anything; it never has. Look at all the major revolutions, the French, US, Russian - they all failed.
Not, if you accept the official story.
But in reality, the snakes sleazed in before the blood dried.

But there have been successes to varying degrees in some arenas. Cuba, Iran, contemporary Russia, Venezuela; there have been social improvements.

So it can be done.
But it takes perseverance and guts.

Speaking of which, what about you.

You're obviously intelligent, and perceptive - but defeated.
You need fire in your belly.

Have a look at Eleanor Goldfield in that link I gave you (Actup), Caitlin Johnstone, and tons of others.

If you lie down and roll over, that's what the fascists want.

Resistance is not futile, it's the only thing that works.

those people actually believe democracy works - it doesn't and never did which is why you are allowed to think it does.

the entire planet is ruled over in secret by a secret governing authority and the public face of leadership is just another ruse by them...been like this for thousands upon thousands of years and anyone or any group who dares challenge them is quickly exterminated.

honestly, if you think that they are going to allow you or anyone else an opportunity to change the path of civilization you are horribly naive.

It's not about being 'allowed'. You take it.

Plato agreed with you. He (with influence from his mentor Socrates) conceived the idea of formal democracy, and ultimately found it did not work. His proposed solution was a Philosopher Prince, a sort of benevolent dictator.
I imagine that you're familiar with the government types existent; that's what we have to work with.
Unless some bright malcontent comes up with a novel idea...

Democracy fails in that it is susceptible to duplicity. But as Churchill said (forgive me for quoting that cretin), it's the best we've got.
Democracy fails most in that the electorate are easily bamboozled, and media (TV, Hollywood, government and other directed propaganda, the education system, etc) are the main culprits, and that's where focus needs to be directed. That's why stuff like Steemit works. To a small overall degree, I agree, but it does give us a place to start.

If you see a strong article, upvote it. Write your own.

And you talk to people every day. Know your stuff, and advance a polite but logically reasoned and fact based argument. It doesn't always work, but sometimes it does. I've had people stubbornly disagree with me and walk away, and much later tell me that the encounter had made them rethink some idea they'd previously held. So you do your best in a respectful way; one never knows which seeds might sprout.

Otherwise what are you going to do, drop your pants and roll over when they come to rape you?
Scratch their eyes out!
politely :)

dude... i don't fight who the illuminati tells me to fight - i fight the illuminati - you guys can blame/fight government or blame/fight economic groups but they sit at the bottom of the obelisk.. who and what i choose to fight sits at the top.

i am actually surprised i am still alive considering what i have done... but i am a real hard core motherfucker who just doesn't give a shit about consequences good or bad.

oh yah baby
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"what i chose to fight sits at the top"

Exactly.
But you don't get far fighting goon squads or getting gassed in street protests. So you step back and consider, how does this paradigm work for them?
It's like we said earlier, keeping the suckers fooled.
And cashflow.
So we spread truth.
And focus on the money. One of the tactics that has always worked is a prolonged work disruption. If we could sanitize the unions, flush out the whores in the leadership, that would be a strong gain.

and none of that matters...

BTW, consequences are what matter. Good, or bad.

not to me.... after the life i was afforded here consequences be damned - i just dgaf

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