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RE: The 911 Tragedy
Man, I get it. There are some nasty people out there. They use capitalism to hurt others. That doesn't mean all capitalists are responsible for the atrocities committed by the bad actors. There are good capitalists out there. They are our allies in the struggle. They offer resources that we may not be able to win without, so it is foolish to turn them away. Political purism only helps our enemies divide and conquer us.
capitalism rewards greed. Capitalism is directly responsible for what comes out of that.
Greed is it's own reward. Capitalism is just the vehicle that connects the greed to the material. The responsibility falls on the individual actor.
This paper by Albert Eisenstein addresses why that is wrong and stupid.
https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
"There are good capitalists out there. "
capitalism is a system of oppression, it can not exist without death and imperialism.
I bought groceries at WinCo foods today. The only death and imperialism I saw was in the meat department, but we can debate veganism another day. Seriously though, WinCo is pretty awesome. They are 100% employee owned. They take care of their people, and share the profits and workload equally.
I'll admit they are hard to find, but there really are good capitalists out there. I like to consider myself one of them.
20 million die of poverty a year. Up to 90% of some crops are thrown away simply because they don't look good enough to sell in a first world country's market. We produce (30%?) more food than we need to survive as a species, and yet millions starve.
That's the death.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/
They wouldn't be too poor to afford their own food if capitalism could survive without imperialism.
I watched the video. Most of it was stuff I was already aware of.
There is no excuse for millions to starve, but blaming capitalism diverts blame from those responsible for this injustice. Greedy assholes and fools that refuse to work together for the common good are to blame here.
Capitalism has existed long before imperialism. Empires use capitalism as a tool, but again the tool is neutral, and blaming it deflects blame from the true perpetrator.
" but blaming capitalism diverts blame from those responsible for this injustice. Greedy assholes and fools that refuse to work together for the common good are to blame here."
under capitalism greed is rewarded with more power. You literally put the greediest people at the top and complain about how greedy they are.
What the fuck is wrong with you, are you that delusional
do you even understand accumulation of capital.
Those with capital accumulate more of it through their stolen profits. Those who are willing to steal more profits (more greedy) accumulate more and destroy their competitors. More capital is more efficient, which means the greedy will literally always win in capitalism
Stop shifting the blame.
You want a modern day example? An example that works even in your precious crypto? Me upvoting my comments, right here, right now. Although my end goal is to use it to destabilise capitalism.
"Empires use capitalism as a tool, "
capitalism can not exist without imperialism, it would collapse otherwise. Capitalists use imperialism as a tool.
This video outlines a system that existed that can crush any of your stupid "capitalism is freedom" nonsense you have.
The entire world lost against a very weakened russia. There is no stopping our march of freedom
"I'll admit they are hard to find, but there really are good capitalists out there. "
You uphold a system that has been proven kills 2.5 times per capita than the worst propaganda even says about communism.
You are delusional or evil, I don't care which.
A system proven to kill millions is a bad system. That is true if it is 1 million or 2.5 million. Again I would point out that you should blame individual actors for their atrocities, not the tools they used to carry their deeds out.
The folks at my local food co-op are not responsible for the evil things done by imperial capitalists. Likewise, I am not responsible for the things my government may be doing right now. I uphold my moral obligation by consuming responsibly and voting for progressives. I do what I can, and it does make a difference, especially when I do so with millions of others.
Let me ask you a serious question. How are you above participation in capitalism? You are likely typing your responses on an electronic device created by and purchased from capitalists. Do you pay rent, or own a home? If you do, you are a capitalist, and you are just as guilty of whatever evil or delusion you accuse me of.
"A system proven to kill millions is a bad system. That is true if it is 1 million or 2.5 million. Again I would point out that you should blame individual actors for their atrocities, not the tools they used to carry their deeds out."
If the system is what enables them to kill millions anybody fighting to uphold the system should be slaughtered. Again, capitalism can not exist without imperialism, it doesn't matter who is in charge.
So all communists, all capitalists, and anyone supporting either should be slaughtered? Who does that leave alive?
who does that leave alive? Those who support the system that promoted the most life, the one that hasn't killed hundreds of millions due to poverty, the one that hasn't killed hundreds of millions in war, and the one where the people are free to choose their own life.
The Communists would still be alive. To my knowledge the mutualists would be alive and so would many other form of anarchists.
In fact the only ones dying would be those who try to stop the transition to one of those systems.
"How are you above participation in capitalism. You are likely typing your responses on an electronic device created by and purchased from capitalists. Do you pay rent, or own a home? If you do, you are a capitalist, and you are just as guilty of whatever evil or delusion you accuse me of.
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Oh man, I live in a system so that makes my argument invalid, let me guess, you would wholeheartedly say that to any capitalist in a feudalistic economy lmao you are even more delusional that I thought
"I uphold my moral obligation by consuming responsibly and voting for progressively"
There is no moral consumption under capitalism, and free healthcare isn't going to stop the true nature of capitalism
In fact it will make a bigger divide between our working class and the working class of the countries we occupy, making it all the easier to recruit soldiers to slaughter them. You can see that in America today