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RE: The Current State of Seasteading: Building Permanent Oceanic Colonies

in #libertarianism8 years ago (edited)

How about sovereignty though? I don't think a ship can claim for international recognition as an independent nation. At most it can opt for being unregistered, but then it can be bullied by any nation. Say some guy onboard launches some very disruptive crypto project or leaks top secret data or hack into a 3-letter agency, the USA can send a squad to ransack the ship and capture the dude without any diplomatic consequence. Surely that is a likely scenario given that the USA already do that in countries where they have no business getting involved. What good leaving in a seastead then if it doesn't even put you out for reach from the evil empire?

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Blue Seed plans to anchor just 12 miles off the West coast. I've never heard of piracy occurring that close to the mainland. It is exactly far enough to escape certain laws however.

isn't .Gov control/jurisdiction like 50? mi. offshore ?

There are different limits with different associated legal nuances to them. I think you need to go 200 miles out to escape US jurisdiction entirely.

I think you need to leave the planet to escape US jurisdiction entirely :)

Indeed, I was confused when I first wrote 150 mi. (Then changed to 50 mi.) then i was like OH yeah (IDK!) , is a clusterfuck/stop researching jurisdiction limits !, (years ago)

Where is anyone out of reach of the evil empire?

One thing you have to keep in mind is that a traditional seastead also doesn't put you out of reach of the 'evil empires'. Large goverments have few compunctions about invading smaller nations when it's to their benefit. The first seasteads will either have to be extremely militarily advanced while not instigating at all (think porcupine, and read The Transhumanist Wager for an example of one) or else have strong alliances (and therefore restrictions) with nearby nations.

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