"IFC Finals - Second Round" - - - Chemtrails/Geoengineering Conspiracy Theory

in #justbecause6 years ago

Chemtrail Conspiracy

A few questions to ask and maybe find some answers. I myself am pretty not on the fence as to GeoEngineering happening. I 100% believe that it is taking place. Science and scientist are just as curious, if not more so, than most people. They have an idea, or a new toy, they have to play with it to see how it works in reality. Are they intentionally trying to do harm? Are their employers trying to intentionally cause harm? Those two questions I am on the fence on. So let's see what my opinions are on a few of the questions.

  1. Unless you never look up in the sky, you have all seen contrails, or are they chemtrails?
    a. Some are just everyday normal contrails, and some are chemtrails. If it cast a shadow, then it is my opinion that it is a chemtrail. Water vapor does not generally cast a shadow, and when there are other contrails in the same area not casting shadows, then that one that cast a shadow is a chemtrail, it has some solid particles to block the light and cast a shadow.

  2. Is the government trying to control the weather?
    a. It is my own opinion that yes the government is trying to learn how to control the weather. There are some serious beneficial aspects to being able to control the weather, even if it is just in a small area. For those who do not think the government is capable of controlling the weather on the small almost macro scale, they have never been at an airport that is fogged in airplanes at a standstill. When that happens, out come the fog dissipation aircraft dropping Chemicals to dissipate the fog. That is, no matter how you want to slice it Weather Modification on the small scale.

  3. Are chemtrails nothing more than someone's imagination?
    a. Not in my opinion, as you see above, I mentioned what I believe to be a difference. If it cast a shadow, it is a chemtrail.

  4. Are they Harmful? Are they helpful?
    a. Right now I do not think we have enough information on the why of it to make an informed decision either way. There are some documented adverse effects to some of the supposed chemicals being used, however there is a risk whenever an antibiotic vaccine or shot is given to a portion of the population, (yes I know there is some debate about them). If we knew the use of the chemtrails and the weather modification programs such as SRM were to protect the vast majority from an extrasolar event, then we would have to weigh the balance of the harm versus doing nothing. The governments just have not given sufficient information on the why in my opinion, and it could be because they do not want a global panic.

  5. Do we have the scientific knowledge to alter the composition of the atmosphere?
    a. That I firmly believe we do have. We may not have had it very long ago in the past, but we certainly know how to deplete the ozone layer if we want to. [(Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)]

  6. Can we alter the atmosphere?
    a. Yes, no doubt about it. See CFC's and ozone.

  7. Is Geoengineering real?
    a. Weather Modification, Yes. Deforestation, Yes. De-Desertification, Yes? We can alter the weather, even if it is only on a small scale. We have deforested areas and turned them to pasture lands affect the local weather patterns. We have greened the desert in many areas, affect weather patterns locally. Even the asphalting of the city roads from cement have had a local temperature effect. So yes, in my opinion geoengineering is real, and ongoing.

  8. What is SRM - Solar Radiation Management?
    a. Solar Radiation management, seems to be the government's wording for one part geoengineering. managing the amount and types of Solar Radiation that is allowed to penetrate out atmospheric layer.

  9. Is Chemtrail and Geoengineering yesterday's conspiracy, or is it still relevant?
    a. A quick check through google or any search engine wil show that yes it is still a current topic and that there is still some debate going on. The debunking seems to not be as active as it was pre 2014, but that is still also part of the conspiracy.


For more information here are a couple of links that you may find interesting

  1. Dane Wigington, one of the most outspoken and well informed geoengineering specialist. On his web pages you will find a wealth of information and his findings. He also has a weekly Saturday Afternoon Radio Show.
    L https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

  2. Solar radiation management: Wikipedia's SRM Page, take a look at the bottom for a very concise listing of references and studies mentioned.
    L https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_radiation_management

  3. The Guardian New stories, they have current reports and news stories some of them even featuring The Don (President Trump)
    L https://www.theguardian.com/environment/geoengineering

  4. Carnegie Endowment: We have all heard of the endowments for art this is their endowment for "International Peace" Here is where you can find information and links to the world outside of America and SRM, and GeoEngineering.
    L https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/05/29/advancing-public-climate-engineering-disclosure-pub-76448


The information presented above is my opinion, as I stated in most of the answers I gave.
Here is Wikipedia Definition of Conspiracy Theory:

A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes an unwarranted conspiracy, generally one involving an illegal or harmful act carried out by government or other powerful actors.


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Wow, first off the bat! I would have to follow up on the sources before I can make a coherent comment, but I did have a question (also brought up by another commenter), why is it that you consider that water vapour doesn't cause a shadow?

Best of luck for the round!

Clouds cast shadows on the ground, so water vapor does actually cast a shadow I guess, but what I meant was in the air. I have seen clouds cast shadows on other clouds, the underside of clouds shadowed by themselves, Until about 8 years ago, I have never seen a contrail cast a shadow in the sky. Contrail, then just a little bit away from the contrail a shadow. If one normal contrail is going to cast a shadow in the blue empty part of the sky, then to me it seems that all contrails should do the same thing. Yet when one contrail cast a shadow, and two or three other contrails in the same direction along the same flight path, and like at close to the same altitude do not cast a shadow, then something is different about that one contrail.. I doubt that a person can find any contrail pictures from 1990's or before that have cast a shadow in the sky. Note in the sky not on the ground not on another cloud but in the clear blue sky.

All that being said, I did read what someone who said they were a scientist, explain in thousands of words how and why and when a contrail can cast a shadow. Me I think his explanation was pure unadulterated bull pucky, but that's my opinion.

Thanks! I just read a few explanations now that I understand what you were talking about.

I like how concise this is. Straight to the point.

Thank you, sometimes I can go overboard.

@enforcer48 you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!

Very good post, @bashadow! I guess I can cross this one off my list ;) hehe Not like there aren't thousands more to write about (unfortunately).

I'd like to add this one to your list - I use it all the time even though you've certainly got the main deep research links on your list.

Section 7 (B) is the interesting mention:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/2977/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22chemtrails%22%5D%7D&r=1

Nice to see references to, and that the term "Chemtrails" is a real term and is utilized by the government.

It was dropped shortly after Kucinich went on an airforce one flight. I have two friends that know him - he's a really nice guy...but he did kind of drop the ball on speaking up (about many things) after this.

Dane is doing such a great job keeping the information flowing as disturbing as it is. And there have been some town hall meetings and hearings on this in recent years.

U know your post reminded me of HAARP. Damn right they're controlling the weather. Here's another conspiracy, they used HAARP on Tacloban where we had that super duper typhoon Yolanda/Haiyan years ago.

Humans trying to play God. Hah. Just because they can doesn't mean they should. Ugh. Why didn't they try it in desolate useless areas instead. For economic reasons? For control? Pffft. Let's see how they will feel when it's done to them. I bet they will go all angry and retaliate. Omg I will stop myself now or else. Hahaha.

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good job @bashadow!
im
with you and have proof about this one too. a coating on my friends skin after a plane chem trailed the area and effects on health. love your reasoning and acceptance of this “conspiracy theory.” good luck!

Water vapor does not generally cast a shadow,
That's exactly right. I have never, ever seen a cloud cast a shadow.

Possibility of shadow clouds ☁⛅
Hmmm ever see how bright solar farms are?

Hell yes the government wants to/already does control or modify the weather. I loved reading your thoughts on this. This topic has always been an interest of mine but I have not done much research.

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