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RE: Real Life Story #10: The dilemma with Islam and its culture in a nutshell

in #islam7 years ago

This is a difficult situation because children are involved. The woman is of age and grown up, if that's how she chooses to live, then that's her choice. The children however do not have a choice and then it's always the question of responsibility. And the question of how deeply you want to or can get involved. Really, a very difficult situation, and there is no advice I could give you on that. Please feel free to share how it develops, I can only hope for a happy end on this story.

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That's the point. I know woman who claim they "need" beating... even european ones, most of the time for sexual reasons. I would never intervene in these situations. BUT in this case, the woman was raised to see this behaviour as justified and rightous. Extreme Example: You know you can raise children to be perfect sex-slaves. As grown up, they will see rape situations as kind of playing.
Being raised to see injustice as rightful was always the biggest problem to overcome (In christianity some hundred years ago we were raised to find it justified to burn "witches" alive)

Yes, blindly believing in a system/religion is very dangerous and it has been used to control and manage the people for over 2000 years now. This is in general a very profound problem of humanity, people have turned into slave robots without realising it, worse yet, they think they are free at the same time. Raising sex slaves in particular is a much practiced sport among the elite, like the global children sex trafficking. (Look at the word trafFicking!) The question is, how can this cycle be broken? I am sure, not with nice words or tolerance. It is time to raise the sword! Generally speaking.

She does not choose to live like that, wich woman chooses to be beaten? It is there faith that chooses that for them. And if you leave the faith you are considerd a apostate, in islam beeing a apostate is punishable by dead.

Yes, according the the version of fake Islam propagated by US intelligence in Afghanistan. According to version that was promoted in millions of books made by the US intelligence to turn Afghans towards militancy.

Wow conspiracy theory gone mental? But good that us inteligence spread there holy books over 1400 years ago :P

Saudis don't practice the Islam of 1400 years ago. The majority of Saudis are Whahabi, an Ideology that emerged in 17th or 18th century. When it started, it was only about 200 people of a Bedouin tribe.

Its leader mixed up teachings of Islam with Bedouin culture to make a new Ideology. They then teamed up with Brits and Sauds to advance their ideology all over Arabia. When they took control of the country, the Wahabis were given control of the cultural aspects of the country. They reshaped the public discourse and brainwashed the majority with their Wahabi idealogy by indoctrinating school children.

Still, this ideology spread among only a fraction of Muslim population (about 1%). Then the US teamed up with them and allowed them to have huge wealth with their oil money. The Wahabis used the money to spread their ideology all over the world among other Muslims. They built mosques, Madrasas with that specific goal in mind.

Now, lets fast forward to Afghanistan: When soviets launched an attack on Afghan insurgents, Saudi did the opposite, they supported the Insurgents and also gathered up many Whahabis from around the world. They also teamed up with CIA to make propaganda to get more Afghans to join the insurgency. They published textbooks of martyrdom that are still being used by Taliban. Yes, Taliban literally uses books published in US universities my master propagandists to teach their children.

http://www.allgov.com/news/us-and-the-world/taliban-using-jihadist-textbookssupplied-by-the-us-141210?news=855057

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2006/01/americas-devils-game-extremist-islam/

Can you point out a single factual inaccuracy in my comment?

You talking about 1 book out of the 3 that are considerd holy books in islam. I don't know if what you are stating is factual correct as this is the first time i heard about it. But i wil do my research. On the other hand the Hadith and the Sunah are made by seeing how the profet lived and is a account of the witnesses of the profet.

Those books are around for nearly as long as the religion is present. And the oldest books found state exactly the same as those distributed now. So how do you explain that?

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