It is very troubling that the most dangerous place for a baby is in a feminist's womb.

Regarding your reasonable stance that murder is killing someone, and that requires a person being the victim, I did some research many years ago, and at the time found that the brain of a foetus becomes organized at about 20 weeks. Before that there isn't the potential for a person to be in the body of the child (if you believe the brain is the seat of consciousness, something that hasn't actually been proved empirically), but after that organization process is complete, there is definitely a person there.

New research may have changed that information, but I haven't undertaken it. Regardless of whether that has changed or not, well before birth the child is a human person, and has rights, even if it's still being nurtured in another person's body. Given that it is almost impossible not to know you're pregnant well before you're five months along, there can be no excuse that a woman has a right to empty her womb after there is a human being in there. There was plenty of time for that before there was a person in there.

Also, while I am very supportive of people of both sexes determining at their sole option what they do with their own bodies, I do not see any rational basis for being supportive of murder just because one wants to do that with their own body.

Lastly, men are not without rights in this argument either. They have parental rights equal to women, even though they cannot bear young themselves. Our species has delineated different natural roles for both sexes, and this is a good thing when people do what is right and natural. However, society has strongly disenfranchised fathers and men generally, yet the right of a father to protect his child is not any less than the right of a mother kill it before it's a child.

Before a person is present in a womb, the owner of the womb does in fact have the sole right and authority to care for the potential person in the womb, or evict it from her body. If she does not do so by the time the brain forms and creates a human person at about 20 weeks, she then has undertaken the responsibility of caring for an unborn person that lives in her womb, and if she kills it she commits murder.

Murder is criminal, and should be. Men and women should be parents, not murderers.

Thanks for tackling a difficult subject, and using reason instead of just agreeing with whoever yells loudest, or having faith in magic sky guy/gal. People that exhibit reason, like yourself, give me hope for our posterity, and a future that's worth living.