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RE: THIS is the logical conclusion to losing the Information War

Well, well. Isn't this reminiscent of the scenario we discussed a while back? The problem with those who so ineffectively oppose the Marxist international revolution is their unflinching loyalty to the principles of Western civilization. While the Marxist dregs are not bound by any principles, rules, or traditions, those opposed to the Marxist lunacy tend to cling-on to their cherished principles, in effect, shackling their ability to effectively combat International Marxism. Unless you are willing and able to betray your beliefs, then the war is already lost; you may as well prepare yourself to kneel before your new Marxist overlords.

The West has been losing the ideologic war for the past 50-years to the Marxist internationalists because it does not recognize that it is under attack. Lenin, Stalin, or Mao could never have dreamt of the success the Marxist international revolution would achieve, in infiltrating every facet of Western intelligentsia. The so-called "conservative" resistance to this rampant war is essentially to organize tea to discuss differing opinions, while their entire sociocultural edifice has been dismantled by those who have no further purpose than to see their society burnt to ashes around them.

There is a reason why it was the fascists who were the only ones able to effectively resist Marxist traitors in Europe. With the entire Western culture systematically dismantled in judicial, religious, and social spheres, can you continue to cling-on to your principles that hinder your resistance against this Marxist cancer? Recognize that the Marxists you are fighting are not fellow citizens, or misguided youths, but poisonous cancer that must be excised from the human race. If they bring a knife, you ought to be willing to bring a gun; if they character assassinate one of you, be prepared to character assassinate entire organizations and institutions; if they send one of you to the hospital, be ready to send ten of them to the morgue. If you can not betray your principles, in order to preserve them, then there is no purpose in disseminating "truth."

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"If you can not betray your principles, in order to preserve them, then there is no purpose in disseminating "truth.""

FTFY.

It is sad to note that in all the nations of the world, but America birthed the Jacksonian culture of can-do individualism and tolerance of eccentricities within the bounds of respect for rule of law and community.

It seems to have waned, yet I hear it's voice still in the hardware store, at the shooting range, and in Wal-Mart. While people have been willing to suffer much indignity to avoid troubling themselves even further opposing it, in America there are limits. It is interesting to note that a significant portion of mass shootings were stopped not by police forces, but armed citizens.

What has happened in the UK will not happen in the US.

We will not be reduced to having our ethnicities engraved on cutlery we buy, nor need to show ID to purchase spoons.

As to countering assaults, our armories--despite the insidious maunderings of slanderous collectivists--aren't phallic symbols, or mere show pieces. Defending our principles is no betrayal of them.

While armed resistence may be one facet of resistence against the Marxist muck, the current Western insistence on "freedom of speech" and protection of "rights" of your enemies is commensurate to a policy of cultural suicide. The Marxist scum and the Islamist dreg are not bound by such civilized niceties, nor do they desire to live in such civilized societies. Their aim is to burn down the West and drag it down into the gutters of their barbarism. The days of half-measures and civilized discourse is over.

His Majesty George III restrained his officers from engaging in total war against the colonies, which were led by petulant dregs with no regard to civilized warfare. Against a foe bound by little to no constraint, arbitrarily shackling your own capacity to war is the surest path to defeat. It was not the honorable conduct in the field of battle that won the Second World War against the Third Reich, but the aerial campaigns that carpet and fire bombed German cities into oblivion. Unless you are willing to wage total ideologic war against the Marxist and Islamist scum, you have already lost.

I can totally appreciate your sentiments, and many Americans share it, including many who stand ready to defend her.

I still disagree.

Also, it was not the carpet bombings that defeated Germany. That was but mop-up. The Russians starved them to death on the Eastern Front, and that broke the back of the Reich.

If you are willing to abandon your principles, you don't have any. It won't matter if you're a marxist, or ancap, or whatever, in principle, because those principles stand for nothing if you discard them. When you do, you become just another terrorist, and lose the hearts and minds of free people.

It is a falsehood to categorically state that one must descend to the level of villainy your enemies do in order to defeat them. Doing so actually reduces your effectiveness and the morale of your military forces and people. There's a reason we oppose such villains, and it's because they do as you advise, and abandon honor, justice, and reason for villainy, terrorism, and raw power.

That's why they will always lose in the end to people that have principles. War is not won on the battlefield, but before any military engagement occurs. Vermin torture. Honorable people do not support vermin, but people who maintain just treatment. Vermin thus lose the hearts and minds, and eventually the war.

The USA has lost a huge amount of international support as a result of resorting to scumbaggery and literal torture, as well as dividing it's people and losing much of it's strength at home. If that course doesn't soon reverse, and it looks like it won't, with Bloody Gina now CIA director, the USA will soon be as reviled as any banana republic or common thuggish dictatorship.

The adherence to the principles laid out in the Declaration of Independence, although often but in the breach, has created the most powerful nation in the world. Abandoning those principles has dramatically weakened it. It looks to get weaker still, soon.

It is greatly perplexing and fascinating for me to follow your defense of the weapons clause in the US legal statutes, and your defense of the "rights" of your enemies to dismantle your society. If you are not willing to temporarily silence your opposition using legal, economic, and social pressures/intimidation, what makes you think that you will be willing to permanently silence your enemies with your weapons? It is more likely that the Marxist and Islamist scum will use the weapons clause of your judicial matrix to fully dismantle and silence any opposition to their barbarism.

People have rights. People can use those rights as they see fit. What you advocate isn't lawfully using rights, but any means that may be available to harm people you consider enemies.

That includes many crimes.

Criminals commit crimes. Criminals are the enemies of free people. I am not an enemy of free people, but of criminals. Therefore I don't commit crimes opposing criminals, and no free person should.

When free people use their rights to take up common cause against criminals, they win. When free people become criminals, free people lose, and criminals win.

Your argument seems to be that it is irrelevant whether one is good or evil, as long as one wins.

I vehemently disagree, and expect free people to be able to trust one another, rely on one another, and to work together to oppose criminals and their depredations successfully in time. Amongst the things that need to happen first is that the criminal lies that are used to confuse and seduce free, law-abiding people to abandon the righteous principles that make them free--and when this succeeds, those formerly free people become criminals--need to be revealed, prevented, and overcome with truth and mutual support.

The most important weapon is principle, and only by adhering to just and lawful principles can that weapon be wielded. Abandoning that weapon reduces the power of the free to that wielded by criminals, and that is foolish.

The truth will set you free. When you abandon principles, you become your own worst enemy. Doing so secures your defeat in the contest for a just society.

People have rights.

"Rights" from whom? "Rights" guaranteed by what? "Rights" based upon which legitimate authority? People within a polity have previleges accorded a citizen in forms of legal protection. The state/crown has no obligation to extend legal protection to those whose only purpose is the destruction of its sociocultural matrix. According legal previleges to traitors is sociocultural suicide, in which process the West has been engaged for the past 50 years. Why not allow the CCP to blast its propaganda directly to Western citizens without restriction? Oh wait, the West already accords such legal protection to a clear foreign, hostile entity. What sheer lunacy!

Your faith in human rationality and virtuousness is a reflection of your own character. Man tend to attribute those characteristics he himself possesses. Yet, be aware that some men intentionally spew falsehood to an audience of unwise losers with the explicit purpose of increasing misery and chaos. Extending sociocultural previleges of a polity to those whose only desire is to have their very society burnt to ashes around them is not a principled position but a suicidal impulse.

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Well, our effort aims to stop all of that Marxism through the education and fact finding that we put out.

You should join us in the #Informationwar if you were looking for a place to help draw attention to things like this :)

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