RE: The DNC is ignoring the Rule of Law (again) and they are making their illegal Investigation totally closed to everyone!
The first general school of thought is that the standard enunciated by the Constitution is subject entirely to whatever interpretation Congress collectively wishes to make:
"What, then, is an impeachable offense? The only honest answer is that an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history; conviction results from whatever offense or offenses two-thirds of the other body considers to be sufficiently serious to require removal of the accused from office..." Congressman Gerald Ford, 116 Cong. Rec. H.3113-3114 (April 15, 1970).
The fourth view is that an indictable crime is not required, but that the impeachable act or acts done by the President must in some way relate to his official duties. The bad act may or may not be a crime but it would be more serious than simply "maladministration." This view is buttressed in part by an analysis of the entire phrase "high crimes or misdemeanors" which seems to be a term of art speaking to a political connection for the bad act or acts. In order to impeach it would not be necessary for the act to be a crime, but not all crimes would be impeachable offenses.
How Congress Sets the Rules for Impeachment
Both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate have the right to make their own rules governing their procedure, and to change those rules. Under current rules, the actual impeachment inquiry begins in the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives. That Committee holds hearings, takes evidence, and hears testimony of witnesses concerning matters relevant to the inquiry. Typically, as occurred in the case of President Nixon, there will also be a Minority Counsel who serves the interest of the party not controlling Congress.
Whoever happens to be currently serving in the Congress at the moment get to decide, for themselves, what constitutes an impeachable offense and they also get to decide, for themselves, what procedures they adopt to investigate allegations.
Lying to Congress is indeed a crime, but it is up to the Congress itself (and no other authority) to decide whether or not to pursue allegations of perjury.
This goes for BOTH PARTIES. It seems that people are quick to forget about Bill Clinton who was dragged through a full impeachment trial for hair-splitting the not-legally-defined phrase "sexual relations".
The Congress was perfectly within their constitutional rights to decide if getting a BJ (while not an actual CRIME) was considered "an impeachable offense" (presumably because it was behavior "unbecoming" to a sitting president).
THE EXACT SAME STANDARDS-OF-EVIDENCE APPLY TODAY.
Asking foreign governments to interfere with an election would seem to be at a minimum "grossly inappropriate" and very likely specifically criminal.
Even FOX manages to get their facts straight on this one,
Furthermore, if your only "defense" is that "Joe Biden did the same thing" and you are arguing that what Joe Biden did WAS A CRIME, then you are admitting that YOU ALSO COMMITTED A CRIME.
Imagine an alleged murderer complaining that "OJ Simpson did the same thing, you should be investigating HIM".
Doesn't that just make you look MORE GUILTY?
I will tell you this, If MY wife found a sweet thing busy between my knees like that, NO anount of fast talking would convince her that was not sex. I taught her to shoot....They are also paying her hush money, One must wonder why!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_crimes_and_misdemeanors
It is NOT a crime to hold alternate political views! Since the Ukraine did not even know that funds were not there, when this conversation occurred, and the only request was to coordinate investigations (which is NORAML iternational negotiations) there is nothing here.
As far as Biden, I posted video of Joe Biden bragging that he threatened to withhold US Military aid if they did not fire the man in charge of investigating his Son. He also gave them a six hour deadline to get it done! They complied, and he bragged about that also.
No same individual can compare these two international interactions! One is asking for cooperation investigating a suspected crime, and the other is blocking an investigation by threatening a foreign government. Withholding these funds, as Biden threatened to do would have allowed the Russians to destroy the Ukraine.
That combined with the FBI etc ignoring both Ukraine and Italy, who have been complaining about these strong arm tactics used by Obama, Biden, and Clinton; exposes the need to investigate actual crimes, including the refusal of the FBI to investigate! We need to purge the FBI, to restore public trust.
High crimes and misdemeanors
The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as dishonesty, negligence, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, or tax evasion. Offenses by officials also include ordinary crimes, but perhaps with different standards of proof and punishment than for non-officials, on the grounds that more is expected of officials by their oaths of office. Indeed the offense may not even be a breach of criminal statute.
Indeed.
Let's say for the sake of argument that what you say is true.
Do you consider this a crime?
Do you consider this inappropriate behavior?
Please answer with a "yes" or a "no".
First, before I waste my time debating sheeple , there are some base rules:
Facts only, verified somewhere besides Snopes, and not opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they usually stink.
Debate must be limited to a specific topic. Introducing new topics each post solves nothing.
IF YOU Can't debate intelligently, stay off of my page, I have limited time for liberal sheepIf you want to discuss Biden, please specify which criminal act we are discussing, and which Biden.
In the Video, Joe Biden confesses to a Quid Pro Quo, where he bragged that he used US Military assistance; as leverage to protect his Son from a criminal investigation.
HIS Words, not mine!
There are many more, so please select one. BUT use facts, not liberal talking points!
I posted here a couple of weeks ago, go look.
Link please.
I'm a little surprised you can't just say "yes" or "no".
"When did you stop beating your wife?" You frame crap questions, I will answer them properly....
Link please.
I'm a little surprised you can't just say "yes" or "no".
Yes or No
I'm starting to doubt your sincerity...
I see, so you do believe it was a crime. Why didn't you just say so?
I wonder what FOX has to say...
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Separate your crimes here, there are so many. It is NOT a crime for a Politician to ask to coordinate an investigation of a 2016 crime that is a continuation of a federal investigation that has been in process for several years. A search for the truth is never wrong.
Did you read the transcript of this call? This is total crap, and if you are honest; and have read it, you know that to be true!
The truth to liberals is like light to a cockroach; it causes them to run and hide....
President Trump was looking for the truth, unlike Joe Biden trying to stop an investigation to hide the truth.
As far as Biden being your choice of a Candidate in 2020; you should try picking an honest man as your front runner. If he is the best and most honest you have, you are in real trouble!