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RE: John Oliver Got it Right about Venezuela's Crisis

That was hilarious and so true! I particularly liked the OJ reference in terms of the US role here. Might not be out of character for this to be more of our mischief, but not this time. Also not ours to fix. (So no invasions justified.)

I don’t know how the Venezuelan people are going to rid themselves of this dictator, but somehow they must. If invasion by outsiders does it, those outsiders will become the new problem. Look at Iraq.

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Yep, that's always a possibility, but there is also the possibility that they (the Americans) get just a share of the business every other country is getting in the rest of the region without starving their people.
Even Bolivia, with Morales in the presidency, has been opened to markets and they have a one digit inflation.
Except for Argentina, that has a 20+% inflation, the rest of the region is in better shape and they also got interested parties making sure they moved from the left to the center or right (Ecuador, Brazil, Peru). I don't see their people complaining about the empire running their lives, let alone ruining them
Here the cubans, russians and chineses have been intervening, exploiting and supporting Maduro's attrocities, at the expense of people's misery. Some people do not seem to care about that kind of imperialism

If America comes, America controls at the expense of the Venezuelan people. You will never have anything but dictators again, just ones we pick. Better to solve your problems without us. What you see the Chinese and Russians doing now is nothing in comparison to how we will enslave your nation to our corporate interests. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.

Well, let's put it this way. The Americans enslaved us since about 1910 when they started getting oil from our soils.
They backed up a long list of dictators, especially Juan Vicente Gómez and Marcos Perez Jimenez. They did not care they were dictators as long as they did business with them, and yet, even during those years venezuela was not as deastated as it is now after 20 years of chavismo supported by chinese, cuban and russian hands, so you tell me if what they have done is nothing compared to what Americans will do.

Asa matter of fact if you analyze venezuela's history, the period of development we had was between 1958 and about 1990. Everything significant in terms of our industrial development, urbanism, universities, etc happened during that time. There was social mobility. People from smal towns could go to college, get a job and get things done for the next generation to do even better. And all this happened during a period that was in a way controled by USA political and economic interests. But there was a democracy. We were doing better than most latinamerican countries.
I understand your possition.I wish it were that simple. Why would we have to ask and owe a third party is we can solve the problem ourselves. If you paid attention to the video or check similar material you'll see that it has been 2 deades of accumulation of power on the chavistas' part and displacement and annulment of any form of descent or popular participation on any opposition side.
It's not like we are just to lazy to try to change things ourselves. You have to knwo how the left here seized power in such a way that it made it impossible to subvert via regular democratic means.
Many people argue in favor of elections. Transparent election s results are not guarantee, not even the participation of those who oppose them, since some ended upin jail or have been "legally" banned from running.

So what do we do? abtain from getting help and continue suffering until they get tired or our riches are exhausted and they they leave and leave behind a concentration-camp-like scenario?

You presume that I’m accusing you of laziness when I’m certainly not. It won’t be easy, and you’ll note that neither I nor Oliver in his video propose a solution. That’s because we don’t have one. But if a US invasion is what you’re hoping to be your salvation, then I find nothing good to say. I can only hope that those of you there in the situation can be divinely guided by a wisdom that sees a path we do not yet.

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