RE: IFC S2R5: A Potentially Funny and Definitely Insane Theory on the Origins of the Nephilim
That just means that 35-75% of the time someone is given a placebo instead of medicine, they still recover. But, it doesn't say how many of those people believed they were going to improve.
Understood.I'm not sure how we could craft a study to show what people truly believe as no one is in their mind and we don't have technology yet(Or maybe ever?) that can read minds in such a manner.
I have a theory that we wish sickness on ourselves to some degree, as we believe we deserve it for the bullshit we keep doing to one another in order to put ourselves and our families first. But whatever they think is the success rate of the placebo, it has to be more anyway, because there is no way to tell whether it was still the placebo effect that is curing the people who are taking the "real medicine."
That's an interesting theory and I'm open minded to it. And I agree to some extent with the second part of what you said which is I think akin to what I said above. Except for this part "it has to be more anyway".. I'm not so sure about that part since we can't really know what these people really believe, though I think you could reasonably suggest what you did since most people probably think the medicine is going to help them.
I admit it is not provable at all, but the comment I made, about more often than not if we believe it will happen, was more anecdotal than anything else. Just shared the placebo statistics to see if it might give it some credence.
Thanks for clarifying.
This might be too deep, even for me. Lol. I experience thinking, so that means that I must exist in some form, even if that form is an illusion. So I think, I think therefore I am, is a phrase I agree with.
It is deep and I tend to agree with you that we do exist and that the act of us thinking verifies that to some extent even if our existence is an illusion to whatever extent, however I think this philosophical issue may forever remain in the realm of philosophy and be unable to be proven 100% for certain and thus there will be at least a little bit of uncertainty.
The free will debate is of interest to me though. I wish I could debunk fatalism, because I find it a very dangerous notion, but in truth my arguments against it at the moment are pretty weak and very abstract. Though I do think that if fatalism is wrong, then it will be our limited understanding of the nature of time that hides the truth of free will from us. I try to just ignore all of the mathematics that seems to prove we don't have free will, and just ask myself in the moment if I do. It seems that free will is the only power I have at all when I do that, the power to choose yes or no, right or wrong. If it's an illusion, it's a fucking convincing one..
Pretty much agreed with everything you said here. I think it's an interesting subject especially cause so many people so adamantly believe they exist and have free will to the point they "know" it and I find that often when people think they know something so surely we later on find out it wasn't what we thought it was. The more I learn the less I realize I know and can know.
Can you explain a little more in depth why author is connected to father? I have thought about the word father before. I noticed that mother, brother, sister, daughter and son, all seem to have words that rhyme with them.But the father doesn't, that I know of anyway. It is close to farther, which is an interesting word to be linked to the father. I also noticed that Earth is an anagram of heart, and add an F into the mix to get father. Perhaps of no meaning or interest at all but just thought I'd mention it as we were on the word.
I don't think the etymological dictionary I uses says much about it, though I could probably find more if I did a deeper Google search, but personal guess is that it is linked to Christian sort of biblical thought and that first we had the "word" and that God is the father so to speak in those belief systems most of the time, so.. To me it's a sort of logical extension that if God is the father and the word came first that "author" is related to father in such ways. Also the word "logic" which I just used above is also the word and Jesus was said to be the "Logos" or the "word" and Jesus is suppose to be God incarnated as well though I don't think we ever had any children at least not in any official bibles authorized by the religions that became mainstream.
Here's what the etymological dictionary I uses says.
author (n.)
mid-14c., auctor, autour, autor "father, creator, one who brings about, one who makes or creates" someone or something, from Old French auctor, acteor "author, originator, creator, instigator" (12c., Modern French auteur) and directly from Latin auctor "promoter, producer, father, progenitor; builder, founder; trustworthy writer, authority; historian; performer, doer; responsible person, teacher," literally "one who causes to grow," agent noun from auctus, past participle of augere "to increase," from PIE root *aug- (1) "to increase."
From late 14c. as "a writer, one who sets forth written statements, original composer of a writing" (as distinguished from a compiler, translator, copyist, etc.). Also from late 14c. as "source of authoritative information or opinion," now archaic but the sense behind authority, etc. In Middle English the word was sometimes confused with actor. The -t- changed to -th- 16c., on model of change in Medieval Latin, on mistaken assumption of Greek origin and confusion with authentic.
Also here's a few words that rhyme with father since you said it doesn't have many and you're right it doesn't have many.
bother, fother, lawther, mauther, mawther, strother, swather
The only word there I even recognize is "bother" though I could say there's a lot of near rhymes like "shocker" "blocker" "rocker" "stalker" "talker" etc etc etc..
I was aware of the heart earth anagram, but that's cool if you add an f you get father as well. Interesting.
Also interesting the "offer" aspect as ultimately you can choose to resist authority,even the slave can choose death over working in the field or whatever, though on some level if you were say tied down and forced there are ways authority can take free will, yet.. Even with drugs and brainwashing I'm not sure it can ever truly take our souls.
And yes, it is far more satisfying for me when I find a theory on my own and then discover that there are others out there talking about it too. This happened with a theory of mine about nimrod, to a degree, and it made me feel like I was onto something. I have a feeling that you and I will be able to discover some interesting theories together given our interests and points of research seem to be so aligned.
Word! I think so too. :) I'm loving our conversations. Also just curious do you mind on going into a lil bit about your Nimrod theory?
Thanks for the info on author. I understand now. I know of the logos too. It seems the ancient Greeks wrote about it as if it were a very clear voice in their head. I wonder if it is the conscience, and if it's harder for us in modernity to hear it because of all information overload, as well as plenty reasons why we would want to ignore it.
I don't think any of those words rhyme with father though. Not in my accent at least.
My nimrod theory came to me when reading the bible for the first time - which was a time when I felt I had the logos in my head, I might add. Where it says, "he was a mighty hunter before the LORD," I know it is interpreted to mean "a mighty hunter against the LORD," but I had become convinced that God was an impostor and so I read it as, "he was a mighty hunter before [he was] the Lord."
So while thinking, could nimrod be the Lord, I started to think, and I realised that for one, the constellation Orion is known as the great hunter and all the ancient monoliths and temples and aligned with that constellation. The ley lines are said to flow past these spots too. I started thinking about the sign of the cross and why it's so popular throughout history. To try and ascertain its function I thought about where we find the cross most often. Hospitals, Cemeteries, Nationflags and therefore battlefields and war planes. I began to wonder if the the cross was around death, and why. I considered, and this is definitely a bit nuts, but that the cross could be a symbol used to capture life force energy, or perhaps even souls, and send them up the ley lines to the ancient temples and pyramids etc, where they are then transported up to the constellation Orion, charging "his" belt with the captured energy/souls.
In Isaiah there is the "Lucifer" who is claiming they will exalt their position above the throne of God and become like the most high, and as I already told you at this time I was thinking that Lucifer was the title for "king of Babylon," if that was correct, then Nimrod was not only King of Babylon, but the very first one and founder of the city. Furthermore, Nimrod is supposedly behind the tower of babel according to the epic of gilgamesh, and the tower of babel certainly seems like an attempt to exalt one's position above the throne of God. Whether the tower of babel is a metaphor, or was a real tower, I don't know, but it seems clearly to have been an attempt, by Nimrod, to conquer, invade, or replicate heaven.
So, with all these things in mind I questioned whether Nimrod was the ancient sorcerer who started the mystery religions for the purpose of creating religions, and having us worship him through many names, so that he could create a false after life, where he would rule as God and judger of sins, and whether he was successful in usurping the throne of heaven.
He is also entwined in a holy trinity of sorts, having married his own mother Semiramus, and then after being killed by his uncle for his crimes, and his body chopped up and sent to the four corners of the world(like william wallace), his wife and mother Semiramus then claimed to have been pregnant again, with a son who named Tammuz(I think), and who she said that Nimrod was not only the father, but also the son. If this is true, then it predates the father and the son from the Holy Bible, and could mean that it is based on him.
There were many other reasons why I thought this was a possibility but i don't remember them all. I do recall that when I first looked it up there was nothing to be found. But then after a news article about CERN discovering a "ghost particle" I got to thinking. CERN's agenda is reportedly, trying to turn dark energy into matter, or something like that, which sounds like a metaphor for trying to materialise the spirit of a dark sorcerer back into the world. You will notice this theme in movies such as lord of the rings and harry potter. It's common for there to be ancient magician who is evil and trying to find what he needs to rematerialise his body. So if all the souls or energy has been getting captured and sent to the stars or being used in anyway to give power to a sorcerer who died some millenia ago, then the discovery of a ghost particle by CERN ought to be of concern. Are they trying to resurrect the ancient babylonian kings? I don't know. My mind is crazy, but you asked. But after I started to think this I looked it up again and all of a sudden there were many people talking about Nimrod being resurrected. So fuck knows man. Perhaps the world is that fucked up, or perhaps I am not the only one with an extremely vivid imagination.
Also, there are some sources that say nimrod was diefied as Saturn, and what I am most sure of in all this mystery, is that Saturn seems to the bad guy.