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It's been one of those times where everything bad seems to come all at once. I guess that's the price you have to pay for having a relatively smooth run for a while. Recently I mentioned we were changing runs in order to sort out a rat problem. At the same time I was trying to deal with Precious having a sour crop relapse and keeping her separated in the cruiser, so she didn't eat solids, while wanting to move the chicks outside and needing that cruiser for them. As you're probably guessing, things didn't go smoothly.

I changed the doors over on the coop, to lock the flock out of the run with the rat problem and give them access to the other run. Then I put the rat bait block out. The next morning the bait was untouched and the holes in the feed bin lid were bigger. I'd put the bait in a sheltered spot under the bin, so maybe they hadn't noticed it. The next night I put two bait blocks out, right next to the lid corners they were chewing on. The following morning they were still there, surrounded by more chewed bits of plastic!

Rats are fast learners and adapters. I figure these ones are the descendants of the ones that died from being baited over half a year ago and knew they shouldn't eat it. If you've ever tried catching rats in traps you'll know you've got to keep moving them, changing them, changing the baits and constantly try to outwit them. I started out with humane, catch and release traps, but they only ever worked once! I really don't like killing any creature, but my only other recourse would be to not have a garden that is edible; a concrete jungle maybe. So I needed a change of bait.

I wasn't going to be able to get to the shops to find different bait for at least another day, so I tried smearing some old peanut butter on these baits. Success! The next morning there were just a few crumbs and a blob of peanut butter left. I then had the opportunity to get some different baits and they have been disappearing without a trace until this morning. Fingers crossed this means the problem is sorted, for the moment (a rat problem is never permanently sorted).

In the meantime one of the young roosters from our previous hatch had been having some puzzling issues. He wasn't developing as quickly as the rest and had some strange injuries on his leg and abdomen that didn't seem to be something that he'd have gotten from fighting with the others. It was almost like an infection was coming out from inside him. I applied antiseptic and the wounds gradually seemed to be healing, but I think now that it was only externally, because he later lost use of his legs and rapidly went downhill. I suspect that the infection continued through him internally. It always seems to be the sweet natured ones that we lose.

One of our hybrid hens, Austra, also died over the weekend (another sweet natured one). She was 3 years old, which is classed as a average for a hybrid, because they have so many laying issues and it was a laying issue that took her. I had hoped that because she took a little laying break this year and did a proper moult, replacing all her old feathers with shiny new ones, she'd have had enough of a break to rest her reproductive system. Sadly it obviously wasn't enough and her returning eggs were still bumpy and thin shelled.

Left, Austra (front) with her sister, Driala, with their old, sun faded feathers. Right, Austra with her new feather coat, but feeling under the weather.

Thankfully her sister's eggs, while very large, have returned to looking healthy and she's only laying every few days instead of daily. Blood spots are more common in them, but that's not unusual as hens get older anyway. It's one of the reasons why laying hens are usual not used commercially after a year or two of laying.

Thankfully Driala seems to be coping okay with the loss of her sister. The flock is big enough to distract her.

Precious wasn't responding to her treatment as well as usual so I brought her inside and moved the chicks out into the cruiser. They were about bursting out of their brooder, so they were very excited to have some room to run and flap. When it looks like the worst of the rain has finished I'll look at letting them out with the main flock, to give them even more space, as being part araucana they don't do well with being cooped up. Their pin feathers are coming through in patches at the moment. That teenage stage. Unfortunately, that means pink patches of skin are showing which entices curiosity and the odd bit of pecking. This is something I'll have to check up on regularly. Smearing Sudocrem on any sore looking areas usually helps to disguise it and discourage further pecking. I never had this problem until I started breeding araucanas!



Precious seemed to be on a downward spiral. Her crop was fermenting so much that she was vomiting some of it up and ended up breathing a bit in. Then she spent a hour or two sneezing and snoring as her breathing rattled away. She went off her food and was very subdued yesterday, so I thought we were going to lose her. Obviously fate decided I'd had enough to deal with for the moment and this morning she had eaten the yoghurt part of her food, drank all her drink, her tail was back up and she was looking alert again. As she obviously didn't fancy her solid food I made her a mixture of tinned tuna, yoghurt and added her medicine, which she ate up. She's not out of the woods yet, but things are looking more promising. She started her old trick of eating the newspaper lining on her floor, so I put her back out with the flock for the evening and I'll take her out for separate feeding and crop massages.

So today I can breathe a little sigh of relief and hope for a week with less problems ahead.

All, but one photo courtesy of @izzydawn

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Ho-hum the rats!!!!!!!!! Nice to hear news of the birds...although you didn't mention Ginger. Is she still around?

Ginger is in the other flock, where there have been no dramas of late. Apart from a little scare she gave me when she over filled her crop one night and was doing a funny head bop as she struggled to move it on. A massage seemed to do the trick though and it was all empty by the morning.

Had to look up 'chicken crop', but now I get it, and understand how a massage would make it better....glad to hear Ginger's ok :D

Not sure about its effect on Rats, but some years ago when I was in a flat, the neighbours had kids and a mouse problem (we had some too, but not a 'problem')....after trying everything, they tried ultra-sound and it worked super well! I had a quick look online and it seems there are ultrasound rat repellants for 'outdoors' available in case this may be something you've not considered.

I have heard of that ultrasound repellants. Not sure how it would affect the birds though. My other concern would be that even if we kept them out of our garden they would still potentially be harassing the neighbours and they might complain about us, seeing that we are the ones with chickens.

I wrote a bit about the issues chickens can have with crops here. It might give you some more idea why Ginger had me worried. 😨

Hmm, yes indeed. In that case, I have only one further (whacky?) suggestion: to negotiate with the 'spirit' of Rat and come to some mutual agreement of sorts. WTF barge? LOL, check out this video of an animal communicator, employed by the local authorities in South Africa to communicate with Great White Shark in order to understand why there had been so many recent sightings off shore....my suggestion is kinda tongue in cheek of course, but....... :D


If interested, here is another video, pretty dramatic:

Wow! That's quite incredible!

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It seems that we're all capable of this sort of 'telepathic' connection (the 'potentiality' within). At a simple level, might this be you yourself 'negotiating' with the rats???? To spin out this suggestion (in case, just in case :)... suspend disbelief, enter calm space, call on Rat (visualise?), state clear intention to Rat (eg "I'd like to be left in peace and leave you in peace, what can we do about it? What would be an acceptable state of affairs for you? This is what I would like.") and allow answers to come without reaching for them (words, visions, images etc). Communication with single entity, Spirit of Rat. If respectful space is sincerely held, the core of a solution - the kernel of an idea, may just jump out at you!....my take on it anyway, for what it's worth :)

Here's a 10 min vid from a slightly different angle:

Time to start meditating!

Try to get some metal trashcans/pails with lids to store your feed in. That's all I stored my feed in and rats never got through to it.
Try to avoid using rat poison, for the simple reason of it never stays just inside of a rat. The ingredient that kills the rats is large doses of anticoagulant that causes the rat to hemhorrage internally until it dies. It's possible that could have been what your rooster got ahold of.
Even when the rat is dead or dying another predator can grab it and end up dying from the poison.
I would use snap traps with peanut butter and place them inside of the poison bait stations with bricks on top so the chickens couldn't get to them, and regularly caught mice. I don't know how big your mice/rats are or what size trap you would have to use, but trust me, peanut butter is irresistible to rodents so if you place your trap well, you will catch them. They sell traps that are very simple to empty and reload so that you never have to touch the rat or the dirty springboard.
As far as their crop problems: it doesn't look like your yard has a lot of gravel in it, so I'd consider mixing in some small gravel specially designed for bird crops into their feed along with their oyster shell. This was more important for my flock in the wintertime when they didn't want to go out and the ground was frozen anyways.
Good looking birds though! Nice read.

The chooks always have access to shell grit (a mixture of shells, sand and grit) and despite appearances they're actually running in an area which used to be all gravel and still has a lot of it in there.

The rooster died before I started baiting, so there's no chance it was due to that. I also use only bait that they claim doesn't cross poison if predators get hold of it, which is most baits here now. They can't risk native wildlife. I have gone the trap route and after a while even peanut butter won't work. They learnt, and when you've got neighbours feeding dogs outside they can go there for food rather than risking a dodgy looking trap. I was constantly having to find new places to put the traps and new tempting foods to use. Eventually they just avoided them completely and they were in numbers where we could go outside and take several out with a baseball bat each night! They weren't even nesting in our garden and I make sure there is no chicken food available to them, so they were eating my veggies and fruit. Because we're urban, if they become an issue we'll be blamed because we have chooks, so we need to do something.

I've spoken to lots of people across Australia and as much as they hate the idea of having to use poison they have all found it the only effective method. I keep hoping for other alternatives. If we didn't have close neighbours then I wouldn't even do it. I'd use metal containers, keep a good ratting dog and make sure any vulnerable animals were kept in rat proof homes.

Where they're chewing, they won't have any chance of getting into the feed bin, but I probably do need to look at getting something metal.

Well, if Precious survived it can't have been a completely bad week...

Ack, rats. Glad to hear they're finally taking the bait!

Let's hope for a better week coming up...

Fingers crossed!

Hope your chicken pulls through all right! Didn't know aracaunas had that kind of problem but we have only ever had part aracaunas, we had a random batch of chickens for a while and everything was breeding with everything else XD

Guess everything has to balance out. Hope you have another good run soon, or that things average out overall, whichever works out better :)

Thank you.
Araucanas are just so curious, always investigating. They can't seem to help having a peck at everything and of course when a pin feather is broken it bleeds and that just needs more investigating!

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