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RE: 🎥 Hard Fork

in WORLD OF XPILAR2 years ago

I read that at the time it was planned that STEEM would migrate to the TRON blockchain. I wonder if this is true and if so, why leave something of your own and switch to someone else's. Perhaps this was one of the factors of the split as well.

I'm still not clear on that. The article that @the-gorilla links to seems pretty certain on that point, where it says,

Sun had one condition, however: He said he would only pay 70% upfront, with the balance due once the Steem token was transferred to the Tron blockchain. His plan was to have the Steem token keep its name but run on the Tron network instead.

That claim was a huge part of the justification/rationalization that the attackers used for both the freeze and the split, but at the time it all seemed to me like a big miscommunication that arose from differences in language (I've read that article a number of times over the years, and I get frustrated by the misleading and one-sided presentation every single time - so I'm not going to take that claim at face value without a source behind it.). At the time, my take was that JS was talking about connecting/bridging the chains and the soon-to-be Hive witnesses were (intentionally or not) misconstruing what he said.

At this point, with the Hive people gone for the last 2 3/4 years, I tend to doubt it. If it were true, I assume it would have happened by now. Also, if it's true, then - as a 30% stakeholder - I would expect @ned to still have more of a presence.

I'm fairly certain that the Hive witnesses had already been planning to fork for a long time, and they were just waiting for an excuse, so they went all-in on FUD and misinformation when they launched their attack.

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 2 years ago 

I finally fully read the article @the-gorilla linked to. It looks pretty one-sided to me. It would be great to hear an opposing opinion.

Cryptocurrency news sites also wrote about the migration of STEEM to the TRON blockchain. But it is very likely that they copied the information that the witnesses of that time shared.

I finally fully read the article @the-gorilla linked to. It looks pretty one-sided to me. It would be great to hear an opposing opinion.

There's no doubt that the Hive camp won the propaganda campaign at the time. At one point, I thought about writing notes so I could eventually set the record straight with "Steve's Authoritative Treatise on What Really Happened." ;-) Maybe I should have. Many of the details are starting to get blurry now.

 2 years ago 

"Steve's Authoritative Treatise on What Really Happened."

I really hoped that this was going to make a cool acronym but I've been left disappointed.

lol. And it was off to a good start, too.

I'm fairly certain that the Hive witnesses had already been planning to fork for a long time, and they were just waiting for an excuse, so they went all-in on FUD and misinformation when they launched their attack.

I suspect they had been planning on eliminating or redistributing Steemit's stake, which is why Ned wanted to sell, but they probably wanted to keep control of the chain rather than building a new one. They probably expected Justin's response to be something that forked the chain, and then they could claim that theirs was the "real" Steem chain and Justin was the one splitting off a new chain.

I suspect they had been planning on eliminating or redistributing Steemit's stake, which is why Ned wanted to sell, but they probably wanted to keep control of the chain rather than building a new one.

Yeah, I agree. I remember they had even talked about something like "forking Steemit out" a year or two beforehand. I guess they never really gave up on that idea.

and then they could claim that theirs was the "real" Steem chain and Justin was the one splitting off a new chain.

Some of them even tried to make that claim anyway.

 2 years ago 

I get frustrated by the misleading and one-sided presentation every single time

I think that the bias comes through - especially as a lot of the people referenced were those that initiated the switch to Hive. As though they'd been "interviewed" and proof-read the article before release.

At this point, with the Hive people gone for the last 2 3/4 years, I tend to doubt it. If it were true, I assume it would have happened by now. Also, if it's true, then - as a 30% stakeholder - I would expect @ned to still have more of a presence.

I wondered about that bit too and maybe ned does still have some ninja stake tucked away under a mattress somewhere. Or like you suggest, maybe the TRX integration was that step 🤷‍♂️

I'm fairly certain that the Hive witnesses had already been planning to fork for a long time, and they were just waiting for an excuse, so they went all-in on FUD and misinformation when they launched their attack.

It was interesting to read a lot of complaints prior to the fork about lack of progress and development, much like the criticism we still see on Steemit. There was also a general feeling on the platform that people were looking for a fight and it didn't matter where they looked, they'd find one. I think we're somewhat fortunate that the haters all left together which has left us with pretty much ubiquitous peace and love 💖

Maybe not quite ubiquitous, and I do miss many of the people who left, but I mostly agree with this:

There was also a general feeling on the platform that people were looking for a fight and it didn't matter where they looked, they'd find one. I think we're somewhat fortunate that the haters all left together which has left us with pretty much ubiquitous peace and love 💖

There was a lot lot lot of toxicity that predated the JS buyout and disappeared when the fork happened. I don't miss that dysfunction at all. And I notice that when I do get curious and venture over there, I still see much of the same toxicity from some of the same players.

 2 years ago 

Maybe not quite ubiquitous

Fair point.

One of the authors even mentioned something along the lines of "previous warring factions joined together like you would see in an alien invasion movie". I suppose that despite their common enemy (steemit), they've decided to return to their own conflict. I would say money's to blame but Twitter's probably worse.

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