Who Are You, Newbie to Steemit?

in WORLD OF XPILAR3 months ago

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I was curious to know who is currently joining Steemit. So I went to the Newcomers' Community and read through the last 250 Achievements 1 (sounds a little crazy 😆). What did I learn?

Average Steemit newbie is from Nigeria, he is 26 years old with a college degree.

And now a little more about the received information. My sample is completely unrepresentative, but it can give a general idea.

Most newcomers come to us from Nigeria, Venezuela and Pakistan.

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If you plot these data on a map, you can get the following picture:

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The age of beginners is quite diverse. The youngest newcomer is only 8 years old and is from Venezuela. The oldest newcomer is 52 and from Canada. However, most newcomers are between 20 and 35 years old.

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Some Observations

While rereading Achievements 1, I noticed some small things. I was surprised that most newbies don't continue their Steemit journey after writing Achievement 1. And these are not isolated cases, the percentage of such newcomers is approximately 70%.

I came across very good Achievements 1, where a person described himself and his hobbies well, put in some good selfies. That is, the newbie really made an effort to create a good first post. After that, he even responded to comments, but that's all. Why? Is this all that this man wanted to say to the world?

Another observation is the almost complete lack of interaction under Achievement 1 posts, with the exception of greeters. And this question is primarily for me as a Representative. Perhaps if a person received more comments, more people would want to get to know him, would invite him to some community or give other valuable advice, maybe the communication itself would encourage him to stay here. When a person dares to introduce himself to a community of complete strangers, it must be an exciting moment, and he expects a warm welcome.

For example, I wonder if @gabrielaht from Romania would continue her journey if she got one or two comments in her own language and was invited to the some community? Of course, if it is a real person 🤔.

If I think back to myself when I was a newbie, it would be difficult for me to introduce myself to the world and post my selfie. Having decided on such a step, I would expect some reception. The lack of reaction from the community would probably make me feel that I am not expected here.

Another observation is that quite often in Achievement 1, people post old or photoshopped selfies of others. Sometimes it is very noticeable. The motives for this are clear, once verified, these scammers will be able to participate in the Steemit Engagement Challenge and other contests where the organizers require verification, and earn rewards.

Some Conclusions

Statistics never lie. Of course, my sample is too small, but certain conclusions can be drawn. And the first of them: out of 205 newcomers, only five were from economically developed countries. Of these, two from the US are from developing countries (or not so much 😆). So the only reason people join Steemit is for money. No illusions, only money. People try to get an additional, or even the only, income to feed their families, give a gift to their children or simply dream of becoming rich one day.

And what about freedom of speech, the absence of censorship, the perpetuation of memories, the convenience of the blockchain, the prospects of cryptocurrency social networks? After all, Steem continues to offer all this as before. As you can see, for the vast majority of people, all this is bullshit. The only thing that matters is the money, and that's probably understandable.

There is a high probability that users from economically more developed countries will be intercepted by competing blockchains. They managed to make a better image for themselves while almost completely destroying the image of Steem. Therefore, it is important to tell the world that the community is developing, that we are interesting.

Another conclusion - we do not wait for newcomers. This is evident from the lack of interaction with them (except greeters). Moreover, many people think that the more newbies join Steemit, the lower our rewards will be because we will have to share the reward pool with them. I think this is a misconception. Remember how Steem was born. it was rapidly gaining popularity and it attracted both talented authors and interesting personalities, as well as investors. Thanks to its popularity, the project grew and the STEEM token grew in value. If even Shakespeare and Goethe isolated themselves in the blockchain, wrote works of genius, earned rewards and constantly sold them, then over time STEEM would fall to 0 and they would destroy the project, despite all their genius.

And the last. Achievement 1 is probably not read by anyone except the Greeters and a few of the same newbies. As a result, posts receive only a few cents in rewards:

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I think it also discourages those who had high expectations, especially financial ones. However, if Achievement 1 is verified, it can get about $2. Verification of these achievements is probably a titanic task. I have no idea how to weed out numerous fraudsters who try to slip into any loophole and impersonate other people.


I have expressed my thoughts in this post somewhat disorganized. All because I wrote it for 5 days with frequent breaks for more urgent matters. However, thanks to this post, I now understand what else I should do as a Steem Representative 😉.

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Nothing bores me more than a "performance" that sticks to predetermined questions, nothing is as meaningless as the "Achievement1" posts. We've had this discussion many times before and I don't want to fuel it again.

The problem is: "Money? What do I have to do? Ah, an Achievement post (that's what I've been told)!" Copy, "write", run...

In the "old days", you had to look around for quite a while before you even dared to write an introduction. And then? Then it was (usually) good and individual! In many cases, these posts actually aroused the curiosity of other users. And you were already involved in some form of "social interaction". Not always: bad introductions, boring introductions were ignored even back then. But then the writer had an idea why. Today, nobody says it anymore, no, the crap is demanded.

Don't get me wrong: there are still interesting introductions from newbies who make the effort to understand the steem before they introduce themselves or meet the right people and the right communities. These newbies have significantly more chances. And above all, their contributions are read... ;-)
But, yes, you have to look for them.

One night the other day (while on guard duty in the paddock), I checked the #steemexclusive posts from a good six hours ago. There were 2 - two - individual articles (so no SEC, no vote report, no SR report, no contest, no achievement, no dolphin or orca, no summaries...). That says it all! What interested newbie (without a dollar sign in their eyes) is supposed to find this interesting? The "attractiveness" of this platform says: "Join in. Exactly this way."

 3 months ago 

Don't get me wrong: there are still interesting introductions from newbies

Well, I read 250 Achievements 1 and among them came 5-6 that really interested me. Personally, I believe that there is little benefit from verifying these Achievements. There are many ways scammers can trick greeters, right down to buying other people's photos.

It also feels like a lot of newbies come to work and write Achievement 1 somewhere in the cards department.

nothing is as meaningless as the "Achievement1" posts

I understand that. To be honest, I have never read these Achievements. But now that I've looked at quite a few of these posts, some of them piqued my interest. I have found new authors who may have potential. I became their follower and will see if I was right.

I checked the #steemexclusive posts from a good six hours ago.

I do this every fourth day when it's my turn to curate. I see the same picture. And I don't like these horrible headlines: SEC17 WK:#3, The Diary Game 24/04/2024, Steem Cameroon Best day Contest - 25/04/2024, Betterlife || The Diarygame... I imagine how they scare away outside readers.

In general, curation has become a very difficult task for me. I hardly ever support posts written for the SEC. Not because I don't like the contest. Not at all. But I very rarely find interesting ones among these posts. The format of citing a question and then answering it destroys the post and turns it into some sort of application or report.

(so no SEC, no vote report, no SR report, no contest, no achievement, no dolphin or orca, no summaries...)

I am really surprised by the fact that people do not have the desire to simply share some interesting information, maybe their own hobby, some information on a topic that interests them, to discuss certain events. Why is it necessary to continuously participate in contests? (the answer is known)

I imagine how they scare away outside readers.

My saying since 3 years (or even more...). Last time I opened posts titled like that was, when I joined our great curator team... :-(

the answer is known

Right. And it's also known by the organizers. They does not seem to mind. Most Steemians don't either. Some leave (does anybody notice while busy following the "easy way of illusion"?), some just don't want to waste their energy against windmills (and lemmings) anymore.

LOL... 👇

"One night the other day (while on guard duty in the paddock), I checked the #steemexclusive posts from a good six hours ago. There were 2 - two - individual articles (so no SEC, no vote report, no SR report, no contest, no achievement, no dolphin or orca, no summaries...). That says it all! What interested newbie (without a dollar sign in their eyes) is supposed to find this interesting? The "attractiveness" of this platform says: "Join in. Exactly this way." "Could you please explain what you mean? I'm a newbie and don't understand it)))

Hm, you'd have to narrow down what exactly you didn't understand about the slightly longer phrase. Then perhaps I could help you. The addressee seems to have understood what I mean.

By the way, you're no longer a newbie to me (almost a year - please...). However, you belong to the "new generation" of Steemians, for whom all the challenge nonsense (those are no challenges, those are school tasks...) and the favour of the "holy" Steemit team are part of everyday life, quite normal. The new generation doesn't know Steem any differently.

The whole text that I quoted with quotation marks at the beginning and at the end. By it, I mean that I didn't understand. For you, the newcomers might be ignorant and not particularly pleasant, yet I don't think I belong to the group of people who post all sorts of blatantly stupid things at any cost. I don't like some things in the community, and generally, I rarely participate in the 'competitions' that have insane requirements! Besides, in the end, we are all free to like or dislike certain things. Democracy)))

For you, the newcomers might be ignorant and not particularly pleasant

Excuse me? Who said so???

Why are you trying to justify yourself? I didn't attack you, did I? All I said was that after almost a year you're no longer a newcomer.

Okay, my quote "positively" summarised: the largest proportion of articles on the Steem consists of contributions on demand. You have to look for individual posts that stand out, they are very rare.
Just like attractive introductory posts (5 or 6 out of 250 said Oleh).

It seems like newcomers aren't quite to your taste, and there's probably a reason why they're not within your perimeter. It's not directly stated, but there's a sense of not particularly liking them in the air. I'm sure you have your reasons for that. From my side, everything is fine. I consider myself a newcomer compared to your experience, and I know it could be much better, but there are still things in the community that aren't entirely clear to me. Going by gut feeling)))

It seems like newcomers aren't quite to your taste

It's a pity that I leave such an impression on you. It's almost ridiculous. Well, I don't have any programmes running at the moment that you could stalk. And as I have very little time to spend on Steem and any explanations anyway, I'm afraid I have to leave your impression as it is.
I still wanted to let you know briefly. Just for the

good feeling... 😉

Chriddi as I said from my side everything is fine! Kisses))) 😘

 3 months ago 

Don't get me wrong: there are still interesting introductions from newbies

Well, I read 250 Achievements 1 and among them came 5-6 that really interested me. Personally, I believe that there is little benefit from verifying these Achievements. There are many ways scammers can trick greeters, right down to buying other people's photos.

It also feels like a lot of newbies come to work and write Achievement 1 somewhere in the cards department.

nothing is as meaningless as the "Achievement1" posts

I understand that. To be honest, I have never read these Achievements. But now that I've looked at quite a few of these posts, some of them piqued my interest. I have found new authors who may have potential. I became their follower and will see if I was right.

I checked the #steemexclusive posts from a good six hours ago.

I do this every fourth day when it's my turn to curate. I see the same picture. And I don't like these horrible headlines: SEC17 WK:#3, The Diary Game 24/04/2024, Steem Cameroon Best day Contest - 25/04/2024, Betterlife || The Diarygame... I imagine how they scare away outside readers.

In general, curation has become a very difficult task for me. I hardly ever support posts written for the SEC. Not because I don't like the contest. Not at all. But I very rarely find interesting ones among these posts. The format of citing a question and then answering it destroys the post and turns it into some sort of application or report.

(so no SEC, no vote report, no SR report, no contest, no achievement, no dolphin or orca, no summaries...)

I am really surprised by the fact that people do not have the desire to simply share some interesting information, maybe their own hobby, some information on a topic that interests them, to discuss certain events. Why is it necessary to continuously participate in contests? (the answer is known)

I always get a strange feeling when I read achievements, is it real or not?

I've also noticed that many people only write comments under their own posts. Why? When I was new, I used to pester the old hands with questions and got friendly answers. That made it relatively easy to get started.

Today's newcomers are much more reserved or uninterested, that's my impression. But you won't get far here by keeping quiet.

What also surprises me is that so many come from Nigeria, Venezuela, etc. I suspect that those from other countries simply get started without going through the newcomer community procedure.

 3 months ago 

Today's newcomers are much more reserved or uninterested, that's my impression.

I've noticed that many newbies see Steemit as a place to work. They perform certain work and expect a reward for it. I'm sure that in the days when you started, people had a different perception of this platform and were more interested in the communication itself.

I suspect that those from other countries simply get started without going through the newcomer community procedure.

You are probably right. For example, the Ukrainian community does not require Achievement 1. Newbies appear there, often without even introducing themselves. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as they create normal unique content and interact with other community members.

When I was new, I used to pester the old hands with questions and got friendly answers.

When I started, I hardly interacted with anyone at first. I made a lot of mistakes based on the wrong conclusions I made from reading posts and various recommendations. My real understanding of the platform was when I started communicating through comments. If you asked me what is the secret of "success" in Steemit, I would answer - comments, communication, finding common interests, etc.

the Ukrainian community does not require Achievement 1

It's no different in the German community, for a long time I didn't know that the Newcomer Community even existed.

Do you have an explanation why it's mainly users from the countries mentioned who start with the newcomers?

what is the secret... I would answer - comments, communication, finding common interests, etc.

Exactly, that's what I think too. And sometimes, in a weak hour, I tell someone our secret :-)

 3 months ago 

Do you have an explanation why it's mainly users from the countries mentioned who start with the newcomers?

I think the absolute majority of newbies from these countries didn't find out about Steemit by accident. They were recommended this platform by someone and apparently the recommendations said to start with Achievement 1.

Of course, such subtle hints can also be the reason:

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A very serious topic that requires a lot of frankness, difficult to achieve here, in spite of everything.

Who are you, newbie?

The most important and most difficult question to answer.

Of course, if it is a real person 🤔

Everything starts from here.
Personally, I'm too biased, having seen things over the years. And I, the prejudiced one, say this: back in 2018 it was even too late to enter this network. And today, after so many years, there are no "new people" for me.
I know this is a misconception and many newbies will be offended. But imagine what it's like to find out that one person owned 1,500 accounts. Or that mass identity theft is practiced from Instagram, FB and similar networks, with all their photos, etc.

Steemit and other blockchain networks are being touted in poor countries as a means of printing money. Why would they be otherwise attractive to people, don't you think? Whether they will be able to overcome the attractiveness of FB or Instagram, despite the lack of freedom of speech there - I doubt it. But at the same time, recruiting new people from poor countries doesn't seem entirely well-intentioned to me. I mean if there is no benefit to the onboarders.
Things are tied to each other, says the biased blogger in me again. And this is one of the reasons I am very careful with such accounts and prefer to stick to a certain circle of people.

I don't know if it makes sense anymore to ask ourselves the questions: did things go in the wrong direction and what could we have done to prevent it. Because if someone is interested in this type of network, they will stay, regardless of the lack of comments on their first post or the lack of a large first vote. Voting for the sake of voting, just to keep someone here, at any cost, is also wrong.

I know I can't even write a meaningful comment on this all-encompassing topic, where if one digs into the details, one can make terrible assumptions and be endlessly frustrated.
But anyway, thanks for the useful information and food for thought!

 3 months ago 

This is a really complicated topic.

I think it is not necessary to divide authors according to their origin from a poor or rich country. But the need to earn money definitely puts pressure on a person. He or she starts to post a lot and because of this the posts become less interesting and attractive.

In my opinion, it all depends on the curators and on us as a community. If we all support only quality posts, those who want easy money will simply lose interest. But in practice, as we see, it doesn't work very well.

Would this platform be better without newcomers? I think not. Over time, it will become a wasteland.

Voting for the sake of voting, just to keep someone here, at any cost, is also wrong.

I agree very much.

 3 months ago 

And what about freedom of speech, the absence of censorship, the perpetuation of memories, the convenience of the blockchain, the prospects of cryptocurrency social networks? After all, Steem continues to offer all this as before.

These are such big perks of writing on Steemit.
For example I felt super satisfied and happy after writing my latest post as if I had capsulated my memories before they fade away. Sharing a part of the world through your eyes and feeling the urge and passion to share your story—there is nothing else quite like it.

It's okay if they're not from developing countries; there's nothing wrong with that. For me, the question is whether they have anything to offer as quality content. Maybe they are not motivated enough, seeing the older users who have good and quality posts. Who knows. From another perspective, I see many users from Latin America and Africa whose photo quality is, to put it mildly, awful, but that doesn't stop them; they continue to be part of the community and boldly move forward. And if newcomers really expected to get rich overnight, it's a pity for them because their disappointment must have been great! 250...! You definitely have nerves of steel and a touch of madness! ha-ha-ha))))

 3 months ago 

I see many users from Latin America and Africa whose photo quality is, to put it mildly, awful

Yes, they do not have money for better equipment. However, I have met authors, it seems from Africa, who, despite the poor quality of the photo, know how to write an interesting post.

There is nothing wrong with the fact that the author is from a poor country. We should never divide people according to this principle. However, the need to earn money affects the frequency of posting and, as a result, the quality of the content. That is why I would like to have at least a little more authors from Western Europe and North America.

250...! You definitely have nerves of steel and a touch of madness!

Haha, this went on for days.

Why not from the Balkans? There are definitely some cool people among us, haha. We're a bit specific, but we've got our charm 😃

 3 months ago 

I don't know why I wrote Western Europe, I meant the European Union, so you definitely belong there 😁. In fact, it does not matter what country a person is from, as long as he is creative and interesting in communication 🙂

We're a bit specific

We are all specific because we are human 😃

so human)))

 3 months ago 

This post has been featured in the latest edition of Steem News...

One of the major issues I have actually come to discover on Steemit is the fact that there is less genuine engagement from people or towards other issues. Look at it, how many engagement is been found in terms of comments under post written in Chinese language or other languages, I think the only place you can see rise in engagement is around the Steemit contest post and that is because it is a contest.

If proper welcoming note can really be given to the newcomers, it will go a long way in getting them sustained and also probably if there can be some mechanisms that can be done to also fisher out those scammers and not only limited to the achievement post, it will also go a long way in doing some good

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