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RE: Who is still on steem?

in OCD4 years ago

Personally, I'm everywhere. I don't see any reason to keep my content specifically localized to a single platform which is capable of hosting it, if it is effectively trivial to put it in multiple places at once. As it stands, that is certainly true when it comes to both Hive and Steem, and I've taken to cross-posting a good chunk of my personal/professional blogging content to LBRY as well because all I have to do is export a Markdown file, which is the content format I'm working with already, and upload it over there.

Some forms of content are just not suitable to posting on Steem/Hive, unfortunately. A group-contributor blog that leverages a more personalized look, like the round robin screenwriting event I'm currently running? There is no good way to do that on any of the currently extant blockchain social media platforms. They just don't support a rich or flexible enough user experience, which is a terrible shame.

Realistically, what I would have rather seen happen would be SteemPeak/PeakD unifying their interface and allowing simultaneous posting to both media platforms. There is very little difference under the hood and doing one stop publishing to both blockchains might not have satisfied the extremists on either side but it certainly would have played to the needs of creators a lot more directly. There is, of course, still time for that to happen since, as others point out, it's only been a little over a week.

I find it interesting that you have this ongoing issue with "decentralization," for a couple of reasons.

Steemit Inc. never really built a decentralized system. While they sometimes made noises as if they intended some sort of decentralization, the underlying architecture of proof of stake, even delegated proof of stake blockchains are inherently geared toward the usual distribution of influence. Hive doesn't begin to address the exact "vulnerability" (as it's been described) that allowed Justin Sun to step in and take over a controlling stake. All it does is change the names of the people who need to be bought out. Not even that many names. In a very literal sense, Hive is exactly as centralized as the Steem blockchain ever was.

I'm looking forward to seeing some serious studies of the distribution of tokens on Hive even roughly the equal of the recent post from @danmaruschak on the post rewards on Steem one week ago compared to two weeks ago. There was a time I could expect to see that kind of information presentation and data diving from the Business Intelligence community but it's been a while since we've seen people chasing numbers and showing figures. If ever there was a time to study systems from the ground up after a major change, this would appear to be the time.

The other reason that your desire for decentralization seems a little funny is your likewise expressed objection to BitTorrent because it's used to distribute pirated copies of your work. You do know that JS bought the originating company long after the protocol was well-established and that BT doesn't really have a built-in discovery system, right? The people pirating your content have nothing to do with JS or BitTorrent-the-company; they are using privately produced front ends to what is probably the most decentralized content delivery system on the planet. It is the decentralization that you object to, the fact that there is no way to censor or control what information is provided by the protocol. Individuals can do anything they want to. Platforms can provide whatever indexes they want. That is literally what decentralization allows for. That is the whole point. You can't have censorship and control resistance along with protection of copyright. It is mechanically impossible. It is procedurally impossible. If the content can be perceived by a person, it can be duplicated and shared with a decentralized methodology, and there is literally nothing you can do about it.

That doesn't have anything to do with Sun. He has no input into the mathematics. He is the CEO of the company established by the original creator of the protocol and which is currently doing its development out of his San Francisco office – but they have long disavowed any connection with piracy groups and have gone out of their way to push the decentralized content market into far more legitimate areas, including distributing large media file content for videogames and other content providers around the world.

Of course, like blockchains often promise, the BitTorrent protocol allows creators complete freedom to put whatever they want up on the network. It also allows for individual search/discovery systems to refuse to link to anything they don't feel like. That's decentralization.

There are plenty of reasons not to like the way Justin Sun does business but there's absolutely no reason to make up unreal and unrealistic ones.

It would be a lot better for creators in general if there was a lot less partisanship when it comes to what is effectively just the database living behind the search front ends. From a creators point of view, the last two decades in commercial computer science have been very much about trying to remove having to care about what database lives behind where you want to put your content. That's why there are a dozen tools for posting simultaneously to Twitter and Facebook. That's why a lot of the serious users of both platforms are still leveraging RSS feeds from both so that they have a single point of consuming content.

As a creator, I want people to find and see my stuff. I will put it in front of them wherever they happen to be. It is increasingly hard to justify putting content on either Steem or Hive, at least from a discovery and search point of view. And that's a shame.

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yeps not all types of content are suitable for everywhere. You gotta know the audience.

"I find it interesting that you have this ongoing issue with "decentralization," for a couple of reasons."

I guess I live in my own little dream worlds with my own ideologies. Plagiarism is on fire on BitTorrent and although you believe that is true decentralization, I believe it is theft. Just like Justin thinks it was a theft that his coins were locked and others do not, we all have personal standards on what we deem acceptable.

As for steem and hive - I think I will be on both. I spent so long on steem and being honest, I am getting more interaction here than on hive. Interesting indeed.

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Wow! This and the reply below are so full of logic and common sense. We need more people like you to calm all the hype and false accusations. Thanks for bringing some sense to the platform. Too many are allowing their emotions to get the best of them because they don't have the facts.

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