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RE: ❉▦[ Dawn of the Phantasms ]▦❉
This (both units) is definitely op, it can fork literally anything. It might only be able to reach 1/4th of the squares on the board but any piece on any of those 1/4th of the squares is dead. Long range unblockable is more valuable than short range. Compare to valkary.
Ignoring this exact piece, your statement is actually wrong. The ideal value of a zebra (2,3)-leaper is the same as the ideal value of a knight, but on a finite board, unblockables get less value if they have bigger range, because they can't maneuver to well at some point. So a Zebra is worth much less than a knight on an 8x8 board (less than two pawns). A Camel (Valk-moveset) is also just worth 2/3 of a knight.
You are right, the general statement is applicable to long range unblockable attacks, not unblockable move. Since they are combined in the above piece I didn't specify.
That said, I believe that valk is worth more than a knight in CEO cost(ofc it also has king teleport), so I'm not convinced by yours claim about that camel is worth less. Likely it's an analysis from a different chess variant. CEO pieces tend to have very localized movesets which makes long range unblockable type attacks more powerful than they would be in normal chess. Though (1,3)-leapers have extra movement problems since 1+3 is even/they can't get to all squares so it's hard to argue that it's that good. zebra sounds way better than knight to me in this game though.