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RE: Sharing UPVU Proxy Witness Vote Results(Updated. 2022/4/17)
I shared your ideas in our witness channel to discuss it with the other witnesses.
We will keep you updated ;)
I shared your ideas in our witness channel to discuss it with the other witnesses.
We will keep you updated ;)
How are things progressing in this regard?
Also on another note, I suspect that there are potentially several witnesses in the Top 20 that are being run by the same person. For the health and distribution of the STEEM network I think it is important that every Top 20 witness be a separate individual... with UPVU basically deciding the Top 20 at this point, perhaps we can suggest to them some form of verification process in order to be voted within the Top 20? Thoughts?
No progress yet, but it looks like most top witnesses are in favor of burning some STEEM. We don't want to rush things though. Many of us are currently busy with other development stuff, so it may take a while until we come up with a solution.
One question was, how we would ensure that the trusted account, which will receive the SBD payments, won't go evil and send the collected funds to an exchange. In this regard, @starlord28's coming Steem Multisig tool might offer a great solution.
The situation changed a bit, because of some 'fraudulent actions supporting' witnesses entered the upper ranks and further steps needed to be taken. In my opinion it would be beneficial for the whole Steem world, if you would not proxy your witness votes to funds2021 and support real witnesses who actively develop stuff like @starlord28, @roadofrich and @marcosdk instead.
Xpilar and team are very much real witnesses who have and are developing communities and projects on steem. I'm not sure why the animosity directed towards Xpilar to be honest. But continuing down that road, who exactly is rnt1, parse, newsteem.witness and scissorsisters among several other witnesses?!
So, this is the developer you want to support, a liar?
Want to see more?
Actually, yes... what else you got?
What are you going to prove with this, there was information from steem supporters to you on the witness channel that it was not safe with keys or posting keys from previous third parties, or am I wrong with what you are referring to which is dated 2 years back
By the way you never answered my question who is scissor.sisters?
I don't know who manages that witness. Could be a sock puppet account, but I don't have any information about it.
Ok, so why would you rather the steem blockchain be secured by a single person using multiple witnesses as opposed to having multiple people with differing view points running nodes making things more decentralized, even though one of which is someone you seem to have issues with?
From where I stand, whatever this guy's past, he cannot do any damage as a single top 20 witnesses and it is good to have as many top 20 witnesses with differing opinions on things as possible for the health of the blockchain... I will keep an eye on things though and please keep my updated on what other information you find. From what I have seen thus far he may or may not have used the posting keys from some users of keychain to vote for his own posts in the post, but that is about all I can see that he is actually guilty of...
Like I said, please keep me updated, but overall I'd like to see the Top 20 witnesses be as diverse as possible... and having someone with a questionable past might be the lesser of two evils than having one person controlling multiple top 20 witnesses and risking centralizing the blockchain... at least in my opinion anyways.
Saving posting keys were the only solution to be able to post on someone else's behalf when there was no steemconnect . Can you believe these gangs ? Ganging up against me and xpilar not to allow us to reach the TOP20 . How can you believe someone who removed @xpilar ( The Most Honest Man i have ever known ) from the official Discord channel so that he does not sees anything . As a top 20 witness he might oppose the gangs Decision. They may HF any changes if only those people who ganged up stays in the top 20 position . First the INC centralized few stuffs and now these guys wants to be the game changers . For Steem to become Decentralized we need as many opposing witnesses as possible to secure the Chain from any forks
As if you don't know LOL . What's the percent of steem you get paid from those accounts ? You guys are running a really dirty game against @xpilar and me and you play innocent ?
There seems to be some implications Top Witnesses are running multiple witness accounts and splitting the rewards amongst each and as such are working to keep their seats at the table...
I'm not aware of any top witnesses splitting rewards. How should this work? All transfers are public, therefore I guess it would be visible at least to some degree. I for my part don't receive any rewards from other top witnesses.
Also on that note, who is:
steem.history
rnt1
newsteem.witness
There are a coupe others as well and combined there is a handful of the current Top 20 witnesses that appear to be being run by the same person... which is very bad for the steem blockhain in terms of security.
I don't know much about steem.history, but I know that he is a developer and he currently works on something to reward Steem devs with delegations. rnt1 is the main witness of the steemzzang team (steemzzang.com). newsteem.witness is a node provider and developer as well. If I remember correctly, he planned to provide kind of a Steem lottery in the near future.
I don't see any possible sock puppet accounts in the top other than parse and scissor.sisters and I guess they would not be in there, if real witnesses like roadofrich, starlord, marcosdk and cotina would receive more support. They don't get to the top, because xpilar and steem-supporter are blocking them with their proxy.
In my opinion it's clear what needs to be done to bring us further.
I believe all sock puppets witnesses are managed by justyy and other few peoples in the top 20 and they share the rewards
You are mad by telling lies and abusing me public on the chain. This is certainly not a good behaviour that a good witness will do. This comment is a proof of such behavior, isn't this enough?
me being a developer myself or not does not matters anything ..until things are done . i have a team … I don't wanna code anymore ..does this proves anything ? We believe you are a developer . but you yourself might not be as well and you also might have a team .. it really does not makes any sense . Once you removed @Xpilar from the discord channel . i believe all you guys talk about is me and xpilar. Don't you guys have any other work . Why are you guys so jealous of upvu Voting me and then the proxies i have on @funds2021 . Grow up Man
You lied to us top witnesses, the Steemit team and your own customers.
The only one in this room who needs to grow up is you.
You should have a look at the voting pattern by funds2021 once in a while.... Not taking anything away from xpilar with regards to building communities, but a lot of things done by that account should raise eyebrows.... If it doesn't, I probably can't say anything else. You really should see the witnesses voted by that account. You might then change the list of witnesses that you are questioning about....
Yes I have looked into it, what exactly is your problem with it? That you are not on it? This whole thing is ridiculous and being turned into a witch hunt, people are free to vote for any witness they choose yet you guys have ganged up on xpilar and tried to basically 'run him out of town'. You guys are so bent on keeping xpilar from a top witness spot that you would rather have sock puppet witnesses in there doing nothing?!
You're complaining about rnt1 and have also voted for that witness. Shouldn't you probably be asking the question to the person casting the vote in that case? You should probably talk to xpilar before you come at me. You'd probably have a better context about the whole thing.
No, no, no. I'm not pissed that I'm not on it. I am pissed that I was on it just to be used as a guinea pig to manipulate the rankings. But, obviously, you never bothered to check the history of votes that that account cast. How many times I was voted from that account to only be removed in a day or 2.
Kinda hypocritical. Ever thought that people chose not to vote for their own reasons? Also, you are free to vote for anyone you want. But right now, it's not you who's voting.
I'm done with this crap! You can have your own opinion.
@starlord28 you know why this happened, remember that there are others who are also to blame for this
Lol you are done with this crap? You are the one that came here and responded to me completely unsolicited!
Who said I was complaining?! I was simply asking who that is or who runs it...
Come at you?! I guess that is what you call a reply asking questions to your completely unsolicited comment... how old are you exactly?!
I had actually heard good things about you and voted for you prior to me proxying my witness votes and this came from xpilar btw. However, your attitude is making me rethink that for next time should I unproxy my witness votes in the future...
The day some of you witnesses chose to exclude me from the witness channel was like a trial without the defendant present and the jury already convicted (me) the defendant without a hearing.
What started afterwards was a dirty game from some of the witnesses to get me out of the top 20 and they succeed. Many witnesses deleted their votes for me and they contacted several of those with a large SP because they also had to delete their votes.
There were many lawyers in that process among the witnesses, but who was the judge in this case?
And one who has been convicted by you before for approx. 11 months ago it seems that you have judged him forever. Why is there so much hatred and why should some of the witnesses decide who should be among the top 20.
It goes too far when you use sock puppet witnesses to push us out. I hope you all have a good conscience for the actions you have taken.
Yes, with our proxy we also have an opportunity to change this rotten game, we were not the ones who started this war.
Yes, we will vote for more witnesses who deserve it, but then they must also put down the hatchet. There are no winners in such a war. Let's look ahead to make the steem better
And none of the witnesses have answered what I wrote here
So those who are silent agree to what they did