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RE: Decapitating the snake... watching the power vaccuum be filled.

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I believe there currently only be three nations that are not infected by this plague.

Im curious.

And yeah, I see the hydra similar. Im for more wealth equality and all that, but that does not mean I see the rich as enemies. The system can recruit drones from all parts of society rich, poor, left and right alike. I want to destroy the system not behead a king (I was 100% sure you would mention Louis XIV).

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As to the Three not infected. Google Countries without a Central Bank.

It is interesting to watch that number decline in the past two decades and how many of those were suddenly enemies that we had to invade.

It was also interesting that within a week or two of the U.S. Invading Libya and Killing Khadaffi they suddenly had a Central Bank. Not the first time things like this have happened.

Anyway I believe there are only three countries left that don't have a central bank controlled by the same cartels as all of the other central banks.

U.S. Invading Libya and Killing Khadaffi they suddenly had a Central Bank.

Told you, you are the bad guys :P. That was a joke!...ehm..Erin?...Kevin, I am not...are we on?..

Heh. I am not. My government is. I do not agree with or endorse the actions of my government. I can resist and be fined, imprisoned or killed.

So I am not the bad guys. I am however shackled to the bad guys.

That was a joke!

... I know we just talked about not letting us be pushed into the vs mentality. It is a distraction indeed.

Yep I saw your joke reference. My reply was more for other readers than you.

Sorry that I felt adressed :D. Well we two have gotten to know us pretty well over these past weeks and there are tons of people who think like us. We need action, but you and your damn pacifism...

I also thought I better clarify. As to pacifism. I am 100% in support of defense. In fact, I can be downright scary in the defense of family and friends. If someone attacks me I'll do my best to finish it quickly and decisively. I am out of shape, older, and though I studied quite a few different martial arts throughout my life I only was mediocre at all of them. I moved from one to the other. Yet I do have a quick mind, and that is all a person needs to be deadly. Due to the fact I know my limitations I realize my only chance at victory in a defense situation is to break things... so IF I survive someone would need a hospital. The key is I do everything I can to avoid such situations. Thus, if you call avoiding needing to be a very destructive person being a pacifist then that is accurate. Yet if I have to defend myself, my family, or my friends I would do so with deadly force.

I expected that from you. My question is if you would support the threat and if necessary act of violence to change the status quo? I am with you that nobody has to be killed, but I think that it is foolish to believe the hydra will roll over when we just talk enough about it. I dont want their heads, I want their power source gone from which the heads feed.

I will tell you if I EVER was aggressive it would not be towards any particular nation. My focus would be on these heads of the hydra wherever they may be and making sure they didn't grow back and simply get replaced by another head.

Focusing on nations doesn't solve anything it just plays into their game.

same, I was not talking about America vs Germany, I was talking about americans, germans and all other people combined against the system. We just need to convince our generals and that should not be so tough.

I don't like repeating mistakes. I also do not see aggression as typically being the only or wisest of solutions. It seems to often just be kicking the can down the road as a large part of the problems stem from other humans being able to FORCE what other humans must do. I don't see that being better because I am the one who gets to do the forcing.

you will laugh, but it is about liberation. It is not about what we do after we have a clean sheet. I dont mind people building communities based on An-Carp. I will most likely be part of another tho.

I would also prefer a bloodless coup, but I am willing to use force for the destruction of the system, not for the rebuild, though.

Our government, every government, is but an agreement. It is those that pervert and repurpose government slyly, absent good conscience, to whom we are shackled.

This is why Jefferson recommended a revolution every generation, to keep the shackles off.

I want to destroy the system not behead a king

They are afraid, and rightfully so. They are few, we are many, and the only thing keeping them alive is our division and ignorance. I have advocated for years to propose a peace where they may live out the rest of their days and quietly surrender their claims to our power.

It can even be a tacit agreement; so far, we have wittingly or unwittingly delegated our power. By claiming it back, and using it purposefully and responsibly for the benefit of all, and simply ignoring them and their commands, threats and, finally, pleas, we could indeed manage to achieve the unthinkable: a peaceful transition to the better world, without a violent revolution, bloodshed or guilloutines.

All the armies and forces they threaten us consist of soldiers, and each soldier has a family. If our vision, our promise, our world is better than theirs, and believably so, I have no doubt every soldier will prefer to become a warrior and say "No, Sir, no!" and stop pointing his rifle into our general direction.

Their motivator is fear and scarcity. Ours is love and abundance. It could happen. It could happen in our lifetime, even.

All the armies and forces they threaten us consist of soldiers, and each soldier has a family

Being in the german army (for 1 month^^)changed my view on soldiers by alot . We had generals openly admitting that the current wars are wrong and pointless.

I think it would be too naive to expect the hydra to not defend its source of power. If there is a peaceful solution I will prefer it.

I was homeless and hitchhiking through the country when a soldier – a high-ranking officer, IIRC – picked me up. The talk we had didn't take a month, not even an hour. But he made similar remarks, and other things he said changed my view greatly, and planted the seed of an idea: that actually, they are potential allies in our quest for peace. Nobody really wants war, except for a few psychopaths.

yeah, you always think of soldiers as this pro-war numbnuts, at least I did as Teenager. Actual Soldiers however care about their friends dying, so they hate it if it happens without reason. Its actually quite frequent the military opposes the state. I heard the US Army did when Obama wanted to attack Syria 2015, but Im not sure on that one.

Yeah that's a nice sentiment, nobody wants war, except the many that do, propaganda is a motherfucker, and the psychopaths tend to concentrate in power in the military especially those that actually fight, infantry is saturated in both command and enlisted with psychopaths, glory chasing, and ready to sell their own for that, don't ever doubt that.

Nobody has delegated their power, they only believe to have done that, the question is can you demonstrate such a thing, and if you cannot is that thing not any better than magic or scam tricks?

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