Your welcome. We had a friend one time in Florida ask to go forging with us. We assumed that she knew about them and she took her berries home. Her college daughter asked for a smoothie and she thought to make it healthier and put a few in the blender. Her daughter spent several days in the hospital and was quite ill. Since then, I never share anything about elderberries without clarifying that point. Glad it made you curious. That is always fun.