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RE: Calls for New Taxation on Sugar- Nothing more than a Police State.

in #health7 years ago

Would Stalin's Russia be a police state?
Well, The US has sent more people to slave camps than Stalin.
And death by police is on the rise.

A person can be detained without trial, indefinitely. NDAA
And now, the police can enter certain homes without a warrant and without knocking.
There are so many laws that a lawyers says they can follow anyone around for a day and find that they have committed at least three felonies. You aren't innocent, you just haven't been caught yet.

So, at what point does this become a police state?

Also, for the sugar tax to work, there would need to be a competing product that wasn't taxed. There really isn't much of the better stuff in stores or restaurants.

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Also, for the sugar tax to work, there would need to be a competing product that wasn't taxed. There really isn't much of the better stuff in stores or restaurants.

Huh? I thought the point of the free market is to provide that? If sugar gets more expensive, other products will either get used or crop up. And yes, there already are other products.

So, at what point does this become a police state?

All what you listed could be seen as a brick on the Police State Wall. But none of that has anything to do with a sugar tax. Someof it stems to the preference of religion above science ("war on drugs"), but most of it is based on (the usage of) the terror hysterics. Muslim terrorists are the given reason for all those things, even if you can't fight them with that and it is a hundred times more expensive then saving lifes in other places (see my post)

Huh? I thought the point of the free market is to provide that?

What free market?
Soda is one of the most heavily subsidized industries in The US.

If you want to use sugar instead of HFC you have to pay a premium in The US.

Further, shelf space at a store doesn't come for free. You don't just make a product and then hope that stores will order it. You have to pay for shelf space. And in that, you have to compete with the subsidized soda industry.

But anyway, at least you can get water at most restaurants.

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HFC? What is that? Please keep in mind that a lot of people are living on the other side of an ocean in another language and cannot understand your shorts.

What free market?
Soda is one of the most heavily subsidized industries in The US.

Taxes and subsidies are in effect the same - just on opposing sides.
So if you are against taxes, you are also for subsidies, or at least not decreasing them.
But that would also mean you are for giving big companies taxpayer money to make those tax payers more miserable (and health care more expensive).

Since I don't think you are, the only solution halfway inline with your wants seems to be to want subsidies at zero, but I cant find that anywhere.

HFC - High fructose corn syrup.
It is made from corn through a very intense process.
It is very expensive compared to sugar (if you buy it outside The US, like in Mexico) but it is subsidized by The US govern-cement.
And so, this very unhealthy substance is in almost all soda in america.

I am against taxes and against subsidies.

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