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RE: Vegan. Good or bad?

in #good7 years ago

The CO2 output by animals is much lower compared to...

It's one of the biggest leading CO2 producers regardless, bigger than all transport combined, and more-so it takes HUGE amounts of water. That's why you keep hearing about droughts if you want to know the truth. Look into our problems finding clean drinking water, that's because of animal agriculture.

A better solution would be to find more environmental friendly sources to generate energy.

We already have them but because people still vote for devilish corporate capitalists they refuse to adopt it as they profit more by selling garbage like oil.

is thinking they actually make a difference.
As an individual you may not, but every fifty people who switch in your area does reduce demand and thus you will make a small impact.
To say it's not meaningful enough is no different from saying giving your leftover food (or a bagel shops leftover food) to a homeless person won't stop poverty so you should throw it away. It's choosing to do bad/evil/etc simply because...well no reason really :)

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  • Our problems with finding clean drinking water ( I assume you're refering to 3rd world countries now?) is mainly because of the corruption at a local level. The money distribution in those 3rd world countries is terrible and mostly goes to corrupt leaders, that's why we have problems creating clean drinking water in those areas.
  • What environmental friendly sources to generate energy do we have, in your opinion then? To my knowing the only one would be using nuclear power plants. The others (sun, wind, water) are not beneficial yet, same as Tesla cars. How about the lithium battery, have you seen where those resources come from? The technology, as it is today, is too poor to generate enough energy for us humans to drop fossil fuels. We simply cannot reduce our CO2 output significantly that it has any influence on the environment without drasticly changing our current way of living. Yes, we must do something about the CO2 output, and many bright scientists are working very hard every day to accomplish it. But right now we must either accept we generate CO2, or start living as people do in a 3rd world country.
    Don't forget that even thinking about CO2 output is a 'rich man's problem'. Look at poor people in the Asian continent, they burn whatever they can for some warmth. When your child is feeling cold due to a harsh winter, will you let your child feel cold or burn that couch on the street to help him? The problem is much more complex than environmentalist make it look.

is mainly because of the corruption at a local level.

I worded myself badly at the end, I meant any drinking water. I agree regarding clean water, however fresh-water is going away and without desalination plants being built, which they aren't, we're going to be fucked as we're running out of non-salted water.

The others (sun, wind, water) are not beneficial yet

They are, wind is pretty shit, but solar can be good, but the better ones are water as they can provide protection as well from hurricanes and tsunamis.
Tesla cars and their battery are not ideal, but they're still way better than gas-powered vehicles, especially if you don't make them so luxury and reduce the weight.

As to how to reduce it otherwise, consumption in general, ban, outright, or downright hang the dirty capitalists that produce garbage products with the purpose of them breaking down in a short period of time so you have to buy another.
Headsets shouldn't break in months or even a year, they can easily last for 10+ if desired, but instead we use small thin wires and poorly made protectors so that they break earlier, and then they throw all that in the bin and buy a new one.

It's really a simple problem to solve, it's just everybody with the power to solve it benefits from the problem.
They'll reap what they sowed and probably be brutally murdered in a couple decades if they don't go hide out in bunkers though.

Well, about the third world countries I do know about the issues on a more global level, but if we're gonna talk really locally as per why there is no drinking water at all, I must tell you my knowledge ends there. :) I only know what some european aid organizations report regarding the issues, like corruption, low knowledge, little amount of schools etc.

Solar technology is very rapidly improving, but it is nót sufficient right now to replace the technologies (e.g. fossil fuel) we are using currently. Let me show you this citation: '' solar energy has immense potential and could emerge as a major
source of energy, in particular if energy-related carbon dioxide emissions must be reduced to quite low levels and if other low-carbon technology options cannot deliver on large scale. While this outcome is hypothetical, it does suggest that current efforts are warranted to enrich the portfolio of clean and sustainable energy options for the future. '', written by Maria van der Hoeven. (CEO of International Energy Agency).
Or from Apple's HQ building, entirely out of solar panels: '' Clearly, this won’t be enough power to power all of Apple’s HQ operations, but as Steve Jobs mentioned in his case to the Cupertino City council, Apple will be able to generate a lot of its own power and will run from an on-site power facility with the normal grid used as a backup.''
source: https://855casolar.com/around-5mw-apple-headquarters-solar-roof-make-among-biggest-us/

I agree completely about the shitty quality product industries produce these days however, back in the day everything was made more robust /sturdy. Phones these days can't even live longer than 3 years :') But it's definitely not a simple problem to solve, because if it is, why hasn't it been solved then?

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