Once upon a time, on a cold winter day, I went outside and I could see my BREATH!
Once upon a time, in Idaho, it was forty below outside, I was driving my truck, (a semi with a 550hp Cat engine) and it was leaving a CLOUD behind.
It looked just like a ChemTrail....
Imagine that.
When you hear hoofbeats in the night what comes to mind?
Horses or Zebra?
i have generally accepted Occam's razor as an admonition to not over complicate things unnecessarily. it is after all, not Occam's Law, more, actually, guidelines.
if the logic, no matter how seemingly sound, disagrees with the data, i'll side with the data.
speculation is sometimes fun, and sometimes useful, but data is king.
if i heard hoof beats where i live, it would probably be someone's TV, and if i were at the nearby zoo, i would have to look to be sure. i haven't seen a horse in a while. i can be certain, however, that i will not round the corner, and find myself face to face with a unicorn.
not all contrails contain aluminum and barium. some of my spectrum readings do.
as i have never left a PERSISTENT contrail from only exhaling, or driving, i am a little hesitant to compare the low altitude, low compression dynamics involving my lungs or a ground vehicle moving at much slower speeds and a much lower altitude, to something on the order of a jet engine at 20,000 to in excess of 40,000 feet.
i am only confident in the actual measurements that i can make.
i don't have to justify, defend, or argue about measurements.
thanks to modern technology and the availability thereof, anyone who wants to can make those at any time.
like encountering the unicorn, i can be certain that, i have never exhaled a cloud of aluminum particles. black swans, however, do exist. i can't know everything, where would the wonder be?
knowledge is power. cheers.
Vapor trails do not make rainbows. I have seen fresh contrails from 30kft that had strange condensation patterns and spectral refraction. I don't know about intentional spraying, except it must be happening in places, based on the myriad of weather control patents, but there is alumina and barium based antirust and antifreeze additives, respectively, and these cause chemically and visibly different trails. not only that but the particulates that fall out to the ground have been measured in many places, places otherwise far from industries, but under major flight paths.
i do hate to disagree with you about the "rainbows" but i have seen this light spectra separation with sunlight passing through vapor trails, and through clouds of substances other than water vapor. make your own observations and measurements, i have. i do not claim to know what any of this means, but i do know the data i have collected is real.
cheers.
In my post i mentioned that I HAVE left a persistent vapor trail. When it gets twenty to thirty below zero the water vapor in engine exhaust condenses immediately. The time I mentioned it lasted for a couple of hours until the outside temp warmed up some. While that was happening my truck was leaving a trail of white steam behind it.
hmmm...how cold is it up there where those jets fly?
did it have aluminum in the trail? or barium? enough compression to thrust a 360 ton plane to 500 mph?
all i'm trying to point out is that a truck on the ground is not a giant plane in the sky. they are different. also, a truck shouldn't be creating a cloud of metal particles in it's wake, any more than a plane should, unless there is something being dumped from it.
data is data, even if a chevy is exactly the same as a 747.
buy your own spectroscope. they're not very expensive.
i did, and now i know the facts, and don't have to rely on conjecture, from the government or the internet..
i did the same thing when fukashima happened. i bought a geiger counter. now i don't have to stress about the fear mongering, i just make sure i have fresh batteries, and if my sensors are not freaking out, i don't worry.
i have found coffee cups and granite counter tops that are more radioactive than anything i've picked up in the air.
data is king.
this is about taking back our power. if we take back the tools that we used to build civilization, we don't have to continue to depend on the questionable honesty of the people who are screwing up our environment and blaming us for it.
i don't want to be stuck believing in fantasies, no matter who is trying to sell them to me, whether it be the government or just someone with a mental illness and an internet connection.
i'm not trying to have an argument. i'm only looking for the facts.
spectrography works by analyzing the um...you know...spectrum?
that's light.
the light given off by something that is incandescent....(that means it's so hot that it glows)
vapor trails are tiny crystalized ice particles. They don't glow with their own light. They reflect sunlight.
(cough)
you're logical fallacy for today is 'false equivalency'...(compression indeed. aircraft work by the principle of aerodynamic lift...the type of engine they use is irrelevant...geez)
emission and absorption are types of spectroscopy i use here. continuous spectra, which is what you're talking about, is not what i need, other than needing to know the energy that i'm starting with.
emission spectra come from energy being absorbed by matter and then emitted again by the matter. depending on what the matter is, it can only absorb photons of specific energies, and can emit them only in specific bands of the spectrum. this is why it is also called bright line spectra.
reflection and refraction are not the same thing. neither are the absorption and emission that i am talking about.
aircraft WINGS work by the principle of aerodynamic lift. the thrust needed to move the air over and under the wings at different rates, because of the shape of the wing, to create this lift, comes from the motion, created by the thrust, created by the compression of air by the blades in the propeller or jet engine rotor.
this compression is also what creates the conditions that cause contrails to form
and thus concludes our physics lessons for today. cough and geez all you want. yes, this will all be on the test.
we will cover false equivalence in a future lesson.
By the way, if you do get through this and see what we are talking about it is much more effective to respect people your trying to educate. They will be more likely to listen to you.
That divides people though. They best things to stop this that I know of is a union of the people. If look back, there is always a point that I didn't know something or for some reason resisted learning it at that time for some reason. It could be anything, the person may have had a death in the family, distracting relationship, distracting tv (lol). So if I were to mock someone it would be just as if I'm mocking myself. I have all of those genetic traits too.
there are way too many cul-de-sacs in this area. the scientific method will prevail, if people bother to use it.
Once upon a time, on a cold winter day, I went outside and I could see my BREATH!
Once upon a time, in Idaho, it was forty below outside, I was driving my truck, (a semi with a 550hp Cat engine) and it was leaving a CLOUD behind.
It looked just like a ChemTrail....
Imagine that.
When you hear hoofbeats in the night what comes to mind?
Horses or Zebra?
Occam's razor shaves exceedingly close.
i have generally accepted Occam's razor as an admonition to not over complicate things unnecessarily. it is after all, not Occam's Law, more, actually, guidelines.
if the logic, no matter how seemingly sound, disagrees with the data, i'll side with the data.
speculation is sometimes fun, and sometimes useful, but data is king.
if i heard hoof beats where i live, it would probably be someone's TV, and if i were at the nearby zoo, i would have to look to be sure. i haven't seen a horse in a while. i can be certain, however, that i will not round the corner, and find myself face to face with a unicorn.
not all contrails contain aluminum and barium. some of my spectrum readings do.
as i have never left a PERSISTENT contrail from only exhaling, or driving, i am a little hesitant to compare the low altitude, low compression dynamics involving my lungs or a ground vehicle moving at much slower speeds and a much lower altitude, to something on the order of a jet engine at 20,000 to in excess of 40,000 feet.
i am only confident in the actual measurements that i can make.
i don't have to justify, defend, or argue about measurements.
thanks to modern technology and the availability thereof, anyone who wants to can make those at any time.
like encountering the unicorn, i can be certain that, i have never exhaled a cloud of aluminum particles. black swans, however, do exist. i can't know everything, where would the wonder be?
knowledge is power. cheers.
Vapor trails do not make rainbows. I have seen fresh contrails from 30kft that had strange condensation patterns and spectral refraction. I don't know about intentional spraying, except it must be happening in places, based on the myriad of weather control patents, but there is alumina and barium based antirust and antifreeze additives, respectively, and these cause chemically and visibly different trails. not only that but the particulates that fall out to the ground have been measured in many places, places otherwise far from industries, but under major flight paths.
i do hate to disagree with you about the "rainbows" but i have seen this light spectra separation with sunlight passing through vapor trails, and through clouds of substances other than water vapor. make your own observations and measurements, i have. i do not claim to know what any of this means, but i do know the data i have collected is real.
cheers.
In my post i mentioned that I HAVE left a persistent vapor trail. When it gets twenty to thirty below zero the water vapor in engine exhaust condenses immediately. The time I mentioned it lasted for a couple of hours until the outside temp warmed up some. While that was happening my truck was leaving a trail of white steam behind it.
hmmm...how cold is it up there where those jets fly?
did it have aluminum in the trail? or barium? enough compression to thrust a 360 ton plane to 500 mph?
all i'm trying to point out is that a truck on the ground is not a giant plane in the sky. they are different. also, a truck shouldn't be creating a cloud of metal particles in it's wake, any more than a plane should, unless there is something being dumped from it.
data is data, even if a chevy is exactly the same as a 747.
buy your own spectroscope. they're not very expensive.
i did, and now i know the facts, and don't have to rely on conjecture, from the government or the internet..
i did the same thing when fukashima happened. i bought a geiger counter. now i don't have to stress about the fear mongering, i just make sure i have fresh batteries, and if my sensors are not freaking out, i don't worry.
i have found coffee cups and granite counter tops that are more radioactive than anything i've picked up in the air.
data is king.
this is about taking back our power. if we take back the tools that we used to build civilization, we don't have to continue to depend on the questionable honesty of the people who are screwing up our environment and blaming us for it.
i don't want to be stuck believing in fantasies, no matter who is trying to sell them to me, whether it be the government or just someone with a mental illness and an internet connection.
i'm not trying to have an argument. i'm only looking for the facts.
spectrography works by analyzing the um...you know...spectrum?
that's light.
the light given off by something that is incandescent....(that means it's so hot that it glows)
vapor trails are tiny crystalized ice particles. They don't glow with their own light. They reflect sunlight.
(cough)
you're logical fallacy for today is 'false equivalency'...(compression indeed. aircraft work by the principle of aerodynamic lift...the type of engine they use is irrelevant...geez)
emission and absorption are types of spectroscopy i use here. continuous spectra, which is what you're talking about, is not what i need, other than needing to know the energy that i'm starting with.
emission spectra come from energy being absorbed by matter and then emitted again by the matter. depending on what the matter is, it can only absorb photons of specific energies, and can emit them only in specific bands of the spectrum. this is why it is also called bright line spectra.
reflection and refraction are not the same thing. neither are the absorption and emission that i am talking about.
aircraft WINGS work by the principle of aerodynamic lift. the thrust needed to move the air over and under the wings at different rates, because of the shape of the wing, to create this lift, comes from the motion, created by the thrust, created by the compression of air by the blades in the propeller or jet engine rotor.
this compression is also what creates the conditions that cause contrails to form
and thus concludes our physics lessons for today. cough and geez all you want. yes, this will all be on the test.
we will cover false equivalence in a future lesson.
Director of the CIA (Cocaine Import Agency) supports blocking out the sunlight.
By the way, if you do get through this and see what we are talking about it is much more effective to respect people your trying to educate. They will be more likely to listen to you.
Some people refuse to be educated...facts don't impress them.
Those type of people are fun to mock.
you may,, also, want to make sure that you know more than the person you are mocking.
I mis spoke.
I try to not mock people...just their ideas.
Some are so much FUN to ridicule!!
That divides people though. They best things to stop this that I know of is a union of the people. If look back, there is always a point that I didn't know something or for some reason resisted learning it at that time for some reason. It could be anything, the person may have had a death in the family, distracting relationship, distracting tv (lol). So if I were to mock someone it would be just as if I'm mocking myself. I have all of those genetic traits too.