I can appreciate your situation, @icybc, with a manicured landscape limiting your access. That's a good topic for discussion. It's those untidy 'wasted' spaces that are so valuable. That may be at the edges of a park or in the back of a large lot. I often go to a place behind a neighborhood church. They let the grass grow tall and don't spray. And they don't mind people going there for walks. I hope you can find someplace handy to get to know your local weeds! :D