How the Southern Stars Work on Flat Earth

in #flatearth6 years ago

When facing North, the stars rotate counter-clockwise, from right to left, while facing South they rotate clock-wise, from left to right. Facing East they rise in front and set behind, while facing West they rise behind and set in front.

So the apparent motion of the stars, their angle and their inclination changes depending on where you are observing them from Earth and which direction you are facing, but their actual movement is ALWAYS East to West.

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As much as FE'lers hate me for it, I still disagree completely with this insufficient explanation of the Southern skies. The Stars in the Southern hemisphere can clearly be observed to rotate the opposite way and NOT around polaris.

Took a globe earther to point that out to me and when I started looking at amateur video timelapses it becomes very apparent. To my mind it's definitely one of the points that break this model completely, as perspective cannot explain this, regardless of what dubay will say about it. Slower rotations of the stars on the "outer circles" - yes, but not the opposite motion as seen from the south. Southern stars can also clearly be observed to rotate around a different point, near the Southern cross, which is why most globers completely disregard FE's other observations. You can pinpoint that point on your screen, put a finger to it and see the whole of the Southern skies revolve around it opposite to the motion of the northern skies.

In my humble opinion, we've been totally had on this one and most Fe'lers just don't want to consider it because it breaks the illusion of having the right idea finally. It was rather painful to me but it led me to better models that are seldomly discussed by the Fe community, sadly.

As much as I learned and appreciate dubay's work, his star trail video is disingenious and it made me stop and question both models with the same diligence. Make up your own mind, but please be careful not falling into the next honeypot, there are a few major points that break the azimuthal model completely and the Southern skies are definitely one of them.

If you are at all interested in retesting your convictions, here is the one that really got me started rethinking azimuthal. Didn't bring curvature back (hehe), but it's definitely different than azimuthal predicts and eric continously purports out there. I think he knows better but just won't tell. I also think most public FE'lers have been too blinded by the globe's problems and the newly presented azimuthal model to ever stumble upon it, so I keep sharing this for those who have somehow managed to retain an open mind.

It seems we do have two poles in the sky, both of which being centers around which the skies of their "hemisphere" revolve in opposite ways. You can find the fixpoint in certain sequences, for example from 2:08 onwards.

We need to find the real model!
Much love

note: all shots with land in them are non-fisheye

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