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RE: Star Trek Is Pretty Much North Korea In Space

in #fiction7 years ago (edited)

"We even see abuse of power plenty of times in many episodes (even in the recent movies)."

True, but I don't see how it proves your article true. In fact, it sort of does the opposite. The abuses of power are so rare, and so neatly wrapped up with a happy ending (like only a TV show can provide), that it really just shows how far the Federation is from NK. It's the least banana-republic government of all time.

It is worth noting that the new movies take place in an alternate universe (I think), so they would be a separate discussion from the main Star Trek series, which is all in one universe. I don't know the new movies so well, it is possible everything you say is true in the movies, but I am only discussing the TV show.

"you decided to enter this debate on false grounds based on your sourness from last time. "

More projection. Take this discussion to 10 third parties and they will tell you that you are losing badly because you refuse to respond to the cited facts, and instead rely on unsupported ad hominem. You ignore the fact that I praise your artwork, or your comments that are good, and reduce your data size to fit your preconceived feelings.'

You should focus on your art, as you are much better at that than civil discourse.

Again I ask you to reconcile your statement that all Federation civilians must go through the academy. It is provably false. I have given you several counter examples that are not debatable. Respond or retract.

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True, but I don't see how it proves your article true. In fact, it sort of does the opposite. The abuses of power are so rare, and so neatly wrapped up with a happy ending (like only a TV show can provide), that it really just shows how far the Federation is from NK. It's the least banana-republic government of all time.

I said plenty of times. No need to list the all. It nearly destroyed the planet once. also, they had absolute power on earth. hard to be challenged by anyone. NK has a banana republic as well. I mean, who is going to go against it?

they will tell you that you are losing badly because you refuse to respond to the cited facts, and instead rely on unsupported ad hominem.

responded to each and every one. Btw, your assumptions are not facts. They are just assumptions that they have been proven false. :)

nonetheless. do try again.

Again I ask you to reconcile your statement that all Federation civilians must go through the academy.

never said that. I actually dare you to copy-paste where I said that. I simply said that everybody who wanted to join the explorative missions had to join the academy and that it was the highest ground of recognition.

I am responsible for what I say, not what you think I say so you can make an argument. Better get back to studying basic economics. Try Thomas Sowell.

Fine, challenge accepted:

"They all work for the government and the greatest aspiration was to join one of the Space ships crews."

No, they do not all work for the government. That is false. That is what you claimed after I said this: " There are tons of respected scientists, artists, merchants and other character in Star Trek. "

"there was no value in people's ability other than moving ranks in the military."

This, though unnecessary to add, further shows you do not know what you are talking about.

I'm done debating with you on good faith, you are an ideologue and a waste of time. Your mind is closed and you ignore demonstrable fact.

No, they do not all work for the government. That is false.

the government controls everything, there is no money. everybody is on the doll for everything. the government literally owns the people. it controls the entire species under a specific protocol.

This, though unnecessary to add, further shows you do not know what you are talking about.

it was made clear in plenty of episodes. Even when Picard was remembering his early years with the rival friend..how they wanted to escape the mundane reality of earth.

I'm done debating with you on good faith, you are an ideologue and a waste of time. Your mind is closed and you ignore demonstrable fact.

You keep using "demonstrable fact". Just because you say it boy, it doesn't mean it is.

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