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RE: Critique of Critique
What you say happens because people don't have self-control and discipline, it is because people don't have liberty, although they do have free will.
What you say happens because people don't have self-control and discipline, it is because people don't have liberty, although they do have free will.
I have spent some time observing people and myself.
I have found that whenever I look deeply into peoples lives and their history, their state of being always makes perfect sense in light of the informational input received from that history (with the exception of genuine psychopathy)
As and example, the two people who are closest to me, appear to be in possession of the most outstanding self control I have ever encountered. In both of them, that level of what appears to be free will or self determinism was instilled in them through fear, and it was done deliberately.
I am still not buying into free will, but I am open to persuasion
Free will exists if there is a possibility of change, if there is movement, and as is evident to the senses, movement exists, therefore there is change, therefore there is free will.
If everything was determined, everything would be static, and everything would cease to move.
Liberty has to do with how capable we are to enjoy our free will, not with whether we have it or not. We are free to the extent that there are no options disabled by our own inner fear/lack of control.
Do you think a river has free will?
Like rivers we just respond to information/feedback.
The feedback we receive as human, has many more dimensions than that recieved by a river. Therefore our response has far more possibilities than that available to a river.
I do not believe that everything is predetermined, I believe we have purpose, I believe we are looking for an answer to a problem. We are wired to create in response to our environment the same way as we wire up AI. DO you suppose that AI could develop free will? I am quite sure we will create the illusion of AI haveing free will.
Right. Agree with you. Although I don't think AI has free will, just seems to have it.