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RE: DEISM = ATHEISM
Santa:
We can talk about Santa. We can talk about history. People can believe in what they want to believe in. When we talk about Santa, we can talk about different versions to his story and then we can talk about source materials for Saint Nick and/or others.
God
We can do the same thing with God by tracing back the story of the fictional and/or non-fictional character and/or creator through history. We can look at how cultures from all around the world would pass on their own version of some kind of world flood.
Origin
What I would ask you is where do we come from. Was it evolution via the big bang and/or creation through some kind of creator and/or other things?
Are you suggesting you believe in Gilgamesh (flood story predates Abraham's account by a wide margin)?
Why would you deny reality? When you say Abraham's account, what do you mean? What did Abraham do? Do you mean Moses who may have wrote the first five books of the Bible? It is said that these books or scrolls were based on other scrolls that were written by other people, some even before the birth of Moses and some before Noah's Flood.
I mention Abraham because, chronologically, Abraham predates Moses significantly. **
Abraham & Sarah (Journey to Canaan to Death) – 2091 BCE – 1991 BCE
Moses (Birth to Death) w/ Aaron and Miriam – 1525 bc – 1406 bc
The Epic of Gilgamesh dates back to 2100 BCE and is very interestingly from the same region that Abraham is reportedly a native (Ur Kaśdim, Mesopotamia). **
The final Pentateuch was based on existing traditions. In Ezekiel 33:24, written during the Babylonian Exile (i.e., in the first half of the 6th century BCE). **
So, the written account of Gilgamesh certainly predates the written Pentateuch.
The parallels between the stories of Enkidu/Shamhat and Adam/Eve have been long recognized by scholars. I find ancient books, scrolls, tablets, documents, text, etc, fascinating. I've not read the Epic of Gilgamesh before. You mentioned it. So, I skimmed over a translation of it. I should probably write more about these kinds of things in future posts.
Gilgamesh overview in 13 minutes,
I used to watch a lot of Crash Course. Oh, this must be a new video. I love these kinds of videos.
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits. There is no reason to jump to any conclusions without hard evidence or logical necessity.
Look, even if everything was created by some "intelligent designer", that supposition alone provides zero support for any version of "YHWH".
It also provides zero support for any specific human moral framework.
DEISM (intelligent design) = ATHEISM
The two are functionally indistinguishable.
I don't disagree with you.