No problem @thoughtsintime thank you for taking the time to read my lengthy post. I think it is very wise to approach such subjects with a skeptical mind so I respect your opinion and thoughts on this. I was kind of drawn towards the D Wave when they started to draw parallels between the system and the 2001 obelisk .. the transfer of information between alternate dimensions, framing it as the next step in evolution. I think Google and Nasa now have one .. but I'll have to double check. I will have to look into Rose some more but I feel that he is trying to be a modern technological Aleister Crowley .. so I feel some extra research into his background could be warranted. But yes I know what you mean about the whole Clinton thing .. man isn't that clip just the most cringe-inducing ever!

The wetiko are a perspective that fit with my understanding .. whether anyone has hit the nail fully on the head yet I don't know, but I think many of us are offering different perspectives of the same thing. Obviously, you don't know me that well but I can assure you that I have put a great deal of time and effort into researching these subjects (more than I can portray in one post) and it has very much led me to believe that at its rotten core there is a supernatural element at play within all this. Equally, I don't expect you to believe that just because I say it and so I very much respect your skeptical and yet openminded stance .. thanks again my friend.