DTube 0.2: Faster to serve videos, Stronger to resist censorship

in dtube •  3 months ago

First I need to thank each and every person who either upvoted, commented on my article, or used DTube since its launch. The number of reactions I gathered after posting my previous article on steemit.com, is simply staggering. The way this project was released, with the number of users we serve, and the total bandwidth we consumed in the first weeks, was a very good to test for DTube to see how far it can be taken. Thank you all.

Copyrighted and Extremist content

I really didn't want to blog about that, but we have all seen the copyrighted content posted on the blockchain recently, as well as more recently some 'far-right winged' political videos that are usually censored on YouTube. And many people have been asking about my stance on that privately.

For me, these two problems are the same. The community must deal with it. I cannot do anything to stop it myself, I don't control anything but the dtube.video domain. I'm sure STEEM is full of invested people who want the platform to succeed, and they know which contents serve our interests and which don't.

If the upvotes outweigh the downvotes, the video goes up and might be displayed in hot/trending. Otherwise, it ends at $0 and won't be stored. I believe any living thing is able to see good from wrong, and every STEEM account has at least 6 SP, so why not use it? If you think something shouldn't be on DTube or SteemIt, just downvote it!

Business plan?

I intentionally hadn't put any thought into this aspect of the project before launch. After getting the numbers and seeing what we can expect, it is obvious a platform like DTube can become a huge success in the future, and that many people will try to compete with DTube. DTube currently has 25% fees on videos (0% on comments), and it would be easy for someone to compete by simply lowering the fees on the upload.

I believe there is no winning strategy. Most existing video platforms (including porn websites) will be interested in what we are doing. They will eventually end up understanding and copying what we are doing. These companies have been in the video platform business for years, and they gathered a lot of information, did a lot of research, and they have competent staff that have been working with videos for a while. They have existing infrastructure, legal entities, and lawyers. If these people start competing with DTube, DTube won't be able to run as fast as them.

Hence the choice, of not turning DTube into a business. The 25% fees will cover the development costs, for a couple of months, then once the project is solid and we stop working on it, paying the fees will only remain as a defaulted option.

Money, staff, and community

The total earnings of @dtube can be seen at https://steemdb.com/app/dtube/earnings (built by @jesta). As you can see, we are averaging 200 SP per day. That is a lot of income and it is enough to find a competent second developer as well as a designer to help this project going faster. I am already in the process of interviewing and will pick wisely.

We also now have not one but two channels on steemit.chat, #dtube and dtube-promo. Anyone is welcomed. I also created a private discord for the 3rd party providers (@nannal, @thekyle), future staff, and a few content creators doing well on DTube.

Who needs a domain?

Hey @heimindanger, aren't you in some legal risks? Couldn't the domain be taken down just like thepiratebay.org ??

This isn't a real question, but I received the same one at least 20 times. TPB is a traditional website, with a back-end database. When this database gets unplugged, no more pirates. Here, a blockchain is our database, and you cannot unplug it that easily!

The domain is a concern. I could have to shut it down at one point if I receive a DMCA takedown. It already happened to a past website of mine, and there wasn't much to be done. That's bad. But, because there is always a but, DTube can easily be hosted anywhere. I could use GitHub pages, or even my Dropbox to serve DTube to the world. As we use IPFS on DTube already, it makes sense to go with IPNS (Interplanetary Naming System) that allows us to do this. Basically, DTube can be hosted on IPFS, and we don't really need a domain no more. Check it out at this ugly but functional link:

You can consider this link as a mirror that will never die. However, I will keep the domain working for as long as I can. It's more convenient for everyone.

Now let me introduce the changes in 0.2:

Remember me

When you run DTube from DTube.video, you are sure to be on the right page. And no other page can access your locally stored keys.

When using the IPFS-hosted version, someone could easily make another IPFS-hosted website that looks for your keys. This is why the default behavior is no longer to automatically store your keys on login. You just need to check the 'remember me' option on the login page if you use DTube.video. When using the IPFS-hosted version, it is VERY MUCH NOT RECOMMENDED to use the 'Remember me' feature for your own security.

Hashbang router

Also, I had to rewrite the router (the part of the application that chooses what to display, based on the address in the URL bar) for it to work on the IPFS-hosted version. That means all the links to DTube have changed. Boo-hoo. I'm sorry about that, it's something I totally missed before the release. All past links should redirect fine however it's better if you update the links when you can.
Instead of https://dtube.video/v/joeblack1/qye2e7br,
the link would now be https://dtube.video/#!/v/joeblack1/qye2e7br

App settings on the blockchain

Another very annoying thing with DTube was how I had to re-compile and re-minify the source code before putting it on the live website. A simple change of setting would take 5-10 minutes to get published on dtube.video.

Instead, the settings of the app are now controlled through the STEEM blockchain and are stored inside the JSON Metadata of the @dtube account. You can check it on steemd.com/@dtube (built by @roadscape)

Automatic Gateway

Another big part of the past two weeks was to figure out the best way to tune the IPFS network to our needs. At launch, I thought it would be better to have files on every gateway for maximum availability, and that's why the gateway used was chosen randomly. I was so wrong. I realized that after a couple of days where videos were struggling to load.

Instead, an 'automatic' gateway is chosen for each file, depending on its hash. Basically, instead of loading the 50 snaps on the homepage from one single gateway, it will fetch 5-6 per gateway. I patched this two days ago and it's obviously working much better. @nannal is complaining much less about his bandwidth costs.

It's possible this behavior might make some videos 'never load'. Going to the settings and changing the gateway should still do the trick, just give it a bit of time as only @nannal stores the original file and the new gateway will need to download it fully before forwarding it to you.


Run IPFS on YOUR PC

Wait... did I say that only @nannal is storing the files? Not for too long... :)

Many people have been asking if they can help the network in any way. They now can! IPFS can run on any platform and is only a few MBs download. In order to facilitate the process, I have added a few scripts so that your IPFS node can easily be configured to work with DTube.

I zipped the current windows version of IPFS (4.10) with a script to easily configure the IPFS node to connect with the DTube app.

How to install IPFS for DTube

  • Download IPFS 4.10 for Windows
  • Unzip the zip anywhere
  • Run the config.bat file
  • Allow IPFS in the firewall (there should be a popup)
  • Go through the config, it should ask you for the size you want to allocate to IPFS and pin your first file: the DTube app itself.

Feel free to make a shortcut to the dtube.bat file on your desktop, or even put it in the Startup folder of your windows PC, in order to seed video files through IPFS all day long :D

Linux Install

This part maybe works for Mac users, I did not test it

The IPFS executable in the zip will not work on your system. IPFS is easier on Linux. Just install 'go-ipfs' with your package manager, and then it's as easy as running this config.sh script file graciously made by @brandongiesing (and it's much cleaner than my .bat script)

Pin on upvote

Once successfully installed and connected to DTube in the 'Settings -> Local IPFS' menu, any video you upvote from DTube, will get pinned, i.e. downloaded to your hard drive, and seeded on the IPFS network. It's also a new way to show your support to your favorite content creators on STEEM. Not only you give them money, you also help them by reducing the chances of their file being forgotten by the internet.

Using local gateway (experimental)

When running IPFS on your PC, you can also try using '127.0.0.1:8080' aka the local gateway. What this theorically enables, is true peer to peer over DTube. You would download your video directly from another steemian who has upvoted it previously. Sounds pretty cool, right? Too bad it doesn't work really well.

1- It completly destroys the connection as anything you see on your screen gets seeded instantly. Maybe that won't be an issue for someone with more than 2Mb/sec.
2- Videos only start playing in the browser once the IPFS node has fully downloaded it. So let's say someone uploaded a 2-hour long video, you will need to wait 20 minutes to start watching it. Terrible for the user experience.

These two reasons alone are enough to not make the local gateway the default one for people running IPFS. I hope we can change this in the future. True peer-to-peer streaming without gateways would be the best, and I think we are close to it.

Using local API for upload

If you are running IPFS, you will also now be able to upload directly to your IPFS node. The uploads will look instant, but will in reality happen after, when someone tries to watch your video. Just keep your IPFS node running and this should be perfectly fine. If your PC has to go down and you are afraid that some of your files might be unavailable, just use the normal upload ;)


Minor changes

  • All avatar pictures should now load from steemitimages.com
  • Fixed search suggestions bug
  • Limited max snap file size
  • Displaying video bitrate in upload page
  • Slightly changed the way DTube videos are shown on steemit.com (with now a direct link to the IPFS video)

Final words

Last two weeks were still not holidays. I guess I won't have any this summer. As you can see a bunch of work was done, and it was mostly focused on optimization of the IPFS network and security. I don't think we will see as many bandwidth-related problems like we have seen in the first week with videos completely failing to load or loading very slowly. I wish I could provide an update with more 'eye-candy' features, but priorities are priorities.

Don't hesitate to comment with your bugs/problems, feedback is always appreciated. Also remember about the #dtube channel on steemit.chat if you are looking for help or want to socialize with other video creators on STEEM.

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Not only this one, the idea and the use of IPFS is really great... I did not know before that one can host websites this way... this is the logical evolution...
DTube might be the best implementation for the moment, but this will also spur competition and other people trying to outcompete it by using Steem as a platform... This is something Youtube can only be jealous of... I think that as Linux outcompetes Windows in many areas (look at Android), there might be even better Website designs... But DTube at the very least will get its place in history, as the first really decentralized video website.
With this I agree with Jerry, that Steem should go to a 100 bucks in the next 2 years...

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DTube is a decentralized gushing video stage connected to Steemit (the decentralized web-based social networking) which enables clients to transfer recordings effortlessly and profit (or cryptographic money) by means of the upvotes or likes on their post. As YouTube acquires the Anti-Defamation League to demonetize substance and mark it as "detest discourse", DTube couldn't have come at a superior time.

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So clear something up to me and the few I can outreach to... Down vote #1= someone disagreed. Down vote #50 = content that should and will be removed? #1 & #50 being generic terms as an example?

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censorship is never a good idea.

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Censorship is mental illness

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I think the team behind DTube is definitely capable of having a lot of impact in the media content creation area. Just imagine all steemit youtubers would move to dTube and earn money through it. The fact that they already using IPFS is awesome.

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Of course.

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every marketing media has his own market value this media has his own value every social market need traffic of peoples to attract

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I think so...

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dtube.video will be the 100 top sites in few months. I am sure this platform is capable to get biggest market share in media content and also capable to get listed in top 100 alexa sites.

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Interesting post, I really liked it!

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Yeah it was laggy at start, but getting better

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It is looking like this platform will do amazing things and shock a lot of people.

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Help to collect 1 million for the travel with the likes xD
https://steemit.com/@constantius

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Give it time I think it will. I feel like this site is more for the people, than youtube is

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yep lets see what comm etc this clone get

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with the collaboration of the whole community this platform can become greater than youtube over time because it is decentralized and because it helps to grow all users, it is a matter of patience.

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It will catch some market share for sure ,,,,Because thousands of steemians are interested in using it,, nd thi is only the beginning,.

On Copyrighted and Extremist content:

I think it is best for this platform if we let this content exist in it's own bubble by filtering it by default, but not censoring it.

Due to the lopsidedness of the SP distribution it makes it very easy for one person or a small group of people to police opinions they personally don't agree with.

Down-voting will make steem a circle-jerk where only the most sanitary content can be rewarded. How boring will the content on steem be if we start forming down-voting brigades for anything slightly offensive?

Let's not ruin the ultimate censorship resistant platform by policing content we disagree with.

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From a game theory standpoint, I actually disagree. With two different types of 'reactions' to a content, instead of one, it's much easier to control the quality.

Also, we want people to be fighting wars over which video will have the most exposure. That's what traditional medias already do. The difference here, is that the one with the most STEEM Power will win, instead of the one with the most dollars.

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DTube is a decentralized gushing video stage connected to Steemit (the decentralized web-based social networking) which enables clients to transfer recordings effortlessly and profit (or cryptographic money) by means of the upvotes or likes on their post. As YouTube acquires the Anti-Defamation League to demonetize substance and mark it as "detest discourse", DTube couldn't have come at a superior time.

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The Anti-Defamation League will have an even easier time censoring on DTube.
All it needs is to downvote any video it deems "antisemitic" (basically anything they don't like) to 0$ with the power of its jewish bankers backers.
Not to mention there is already a couple of zionist megawhales on Steemit which are downvoting any post questioning Jewish power, Haavara agreement, the bogus gas chambers, the Talmud, the Kalergi Plan etc etc
On Steemit a post only gets grayed out when downvoted to 0 (so it can't be fully censored), but on Dtube it will disappear completely! read what it says : "IF IT ENDS AT 0$ IT WON'T BE STORED"

If the upvotes outweigh the downvotes, the video goes up and might be displayed in hot/trending. Otherwise, it ends at $0 and won't be stored.

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all that is prevented is using SP to pay the hosting fees. You can still pay the hosting fees to ipfsstore directly, or host the content yourself.

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yes I just read that in one of the replies. that's good. the cost is 0.044$ per GB per month.
Though I still don't see the need for the "downvote to 0= not stored" thing, unless it makes Dtube unsustainable financially.
@heimindanger in one of the replies revealed that illegal content can already be removed from ipfsstore whenever a Court order or DMCA notice is sent to them.

IPFS has some mechanism to block videos actually and if he receives any DMCA notice or court order, @nannal will delete the file from ipfsstore.it instantly, I don't think he wants to go to jail.

Also important will be to setup the nodes in countries that respect freespeech, because France (where @heimindanger is from) is a NWO socialist dictatorship with the strictest "hate speech" laws in the World lobbied by the Anti-Defamation League. Even just questioning the Holocaust gets you 5 years in jail there.
Don't know where @nannal is located but hopefully not in France, or best wait for the creation of nodes elsewhere.

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Fighting wars over which content gets exposure is the exact situation i am afraid of:

Since both left leaning and right leaning groups can negate rewards, you are left with neutral white-washed content, no?

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We are left with non-political content making all the money. Perfectly fine by my standards.

The STEEM blockchain will always print a certain amount of currency everyday. When you downvote someone for a full $, you literally give cents to all other authors in the trending, who legitimatly are better in your eyes.

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It will be a problem for any content that is controversial, not necessarily just political content.

I'm only proposing we need to carve out a space for controversial content. If the masses of users don't see it unless they look for it (like on reddit), then this incentives the maximum amount of people to buy steem.

The alternative, is content contrary to the dominating ideology will be censored and people who want to support such content will be discouraged since their upvotes will be negated by larger accounts.

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Ah you are comparing it to how reddit recently filtered some subs from appearing on the front page of the internet. Yes something like that could be possible, like making a greylist of tags like #nsfw, #gore, etc. Maybe logged in users should be able to setup their list of blocked tags though.

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I thought it would be an opt in for the poster, something like:

  • Users can create a private tag that opts out of appearing on trending.
  • In exchange posts in that private tag can not be down-voted.

The only way to censor content in a private tag would be if all witnesses decide to not write content from a certain private tag to the block-chain. So you would need 95% of the community to think the content is obscene rather than one person with an agenda before the content is banned.

Expanding on the idea: you could allow people to register, own, moderate, and collect the curation rewards from their owned private tags.

Without a hard-fork to implement private sub-reddit style tags, I suppose an option to not to have your content show on trending, and hope agenda driven down-voters don't bother you would be nice.

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No No No, Controversy has value, if you seperate them everything will fall flat.

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Good morning DonaldTrumpFan and anyone who reads this comment.

This is my very first interaction with Steemit since joining a few days ago. I couldn't resist this opportunity to add my voice to this crucial topic.

I despise Facebook, YouTube and Twitter because, more and more, they are used as tools to censor views that they deem unacceptable; particularly views that are labeled as: "conservative" or "right leaning" or "hate speech" or "politically incorrect" or islamophobic" or "homophobic" or "racist" or "anti-semitic" or "white-supremacist" or xenophobic" etc.

Let me be clear. There should be no safe haven for anyone that advocates treason and sedition against the United States whether they are American citizens or not. Videos supporting, depicting pornography and coaching viewers on how to do pornography or child molestation or rape or bomb making (you see where I am going with this). Why? Because these actions are against natural law not to mention the Law.

So, DonaldTrumpFan, I share your concerns and position on this matter of censorship.

I will say more in my introduction post on Steemit and in my Dtube posts and video uploads.

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Which political opinion goes to the top is not the issue. The issue is the censorship (aka removal of content). Even if heavily downvoted a video should NOT be deleted.
Dtube is not censorship resistant nor a free speech platform if all it takes to remove a video is downviting it to 0.
Wealthy Elites , Government Agencies or even political mobs will be able to remove inconvenient videos with ease.

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The issue is the censorship (aka removal of content). Even if heavily downvoted a video should NOT be deleted.

There won't be any deletion. DTube can't remove links stored in the blockchain. In theory state actors may be able to pursue IPFS hosts, but it doesn't look like deletion will be an easy task.

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if a video gets downvoted down to 0$ it won't be stored.

If the upvotes outweigh the downvotes, the video goes up and might be displayed in hot/trending. Otherwise, it ends at $0 and won't be stored. I believe any living thing is able to see good from wrong, and every STEEM account has at least 6 SP, so why not use it? If you think something shouldn't be on DTube or SteemIt, just downvote it!

basically the ultimate censorship platform.
the wealthy elites and government agencies will be able to silence dissenters easier than ever before, they won't even have to wait for Goole...they'll be doing it themselves.

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if a video gets downvoted down to 0$ it won't be stored.

It's not exactly true, I think @heimindanger is just using simplified language here. Once a file is put up onto IPFS, there is nothing DTube can do to remove it. Once a link is placed in the Steem blockchain, there is nothing that DTube can do to remove it.

The particular code that is used on DTube can select not to show certain videos, based on whatever logic it wants, but it's just not presenting it, the data is there and it's still fully public. All you have to do is use an alternate client (perhaps simply a modified version of DTube, depending on the license) and you'll have full access to every video every uploaded via DTube.

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then we need an alternative client unless @heimindanger reconsiders his "downvote to 0 censorship" stance.

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You are really awesome and your posts are awesome. Thanks for sharing. I want to be like you and succeed like you
I am very grateful to you
I will share your posts on my page. You are a hero

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Yes but your going to run into the problem of fracturing with this and while that dose not seem like an issue platform dis-adoption at this early stage could happen as a result. In other words people will often choose to be in there own echo chamber/comfort zone rather than compete.

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hahaha ut SP is just dollars, meaning anyone with DOLLARS can BUY and convert to SP.....

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“If this nation is to be wise as well as strong, if we are to achieve our destiny, then we need more new ideas for more wise men reading more good books in more public libraries. These libraries should be open to all—except the censor. We must know all the facts and hear all the alternatives and listen to all the criticisms. Let us welcome controversial books and controversial authors. For the Bill of Rights is the guardian of our security as well as our liberty.

[Response to questionnaire in Saturday Review, October 29 1960]”

John F. Kennedy

Note: The Steemit and Dtube’s of the world today are the open and public libraries of yesterday. There’s no coincidence that once you examine the etymology tree of both the words library and liberty, you find they originate from the Latin root word— liber, which translates as free.

I believe freedom exist first and foremost in the mind. Censorship and suppression are the harbingers of ignorance and slavery.

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both the words library and liberty, you find they originate from the Latin root word— liber, which translates as free.

very nice observation

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Thank you!

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Sorry, but this is only partially correct.

liber as an adjective means free, this is correct. But the origin of library is the noun liber (book) which is used metonymically only. People used to write on bark, which is the correct translation of the noun liber. While this meaning of bark is related to trees and not to dogs, the meaning of library is related to bark and not to liberty...

Damn, langugages are difficult and confusing.

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Awesome.

Makes me wonder if we could program an AI to make decisions like JFK would have... could be an interesting afterlife. Would be cool if it produced D-Tube videos as the product! "JFK on Censorship" then a video of a recreation of him, but with a new AI-created speech...

(We may all just be original content for future AI creations!?)

All the better if we each learn and speak with such authority. I've heard he had access to significant information, unlike many other leaders. Perhaps with the most complete data set, we make truly logical conclusions that help humanity.

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I also disagree. It is this community's fear of the downvote which is allowing the currently over rewarded advertising and spam to get to the trending page. The point of the downvote is not to censor, but to voice your disagreement in the value of the post to the community at large.

Consider what made people get tired of facebook. People who pay to reach their facebook followers get priority on your facebook feed. Steemit is rather similar, except that we have 2 tools spread across the stakeholders to bring the better content to the top. We have the upvote AND THE DOWNVOTE. And using the downvote to disagree with those who upvote something just to benefit themselves and nobody else, is what your downvote is for.

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That might be the intended purpose.. but there are unintended consequences.

I think we need support for something like steem-communities (reddit-style subscribed content) to get people content they find appealing.

Could we have communities like /r/sandersforpresident or /r/thedonald if they are allowed to down-vote each other?

Sure. But their reward pool contribution will be negated, so why would they come here in the first place?

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A valid point. And I think reddit-style communities are on the way but as far as I know they won't be preventing people from downvoting.

Dtube is sweet. I hope it can take off..

Had a question I was hoping someone could answer:

I see a lot of videos with $0.00 in rewards that still play. Don't you need to have a reward to pay for the hosting of the video? Why do these videos still play?

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Many possible reasons.

  • Someone else than ipfsstore.it is seeding the file
  • The file is in the gateways 'cache', and if the file is popular it will stay in it
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ah thanks! so if we cant use SP to pay the hosting fees, we can pay the ipfsstore hosting fees directly or host the videos ourselves.

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Great question!

DTube has changed Steemit in that short time it exists. So many people talk about, everyone is excited, new opportunities opened up and even new people are coming to Steem thanks to DTubes new service and the YouTube purge. Ameazing work you are doing and I try to contribute with my daily Steemy show as much as I can.

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Cutest avatar on Steemit :)

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Thank you, I drew it myself and I am by far no illustrator (yet).

D-Tube best project on steemit

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Firstly, decentralized posting; now, decentralized video. The life is great! :)

It has been awesome so far. As for censoring content, that is what is killing YouTube don't do what YouTube did and censor content just because some people think it is "extremist", if it extremist content people will flag and down vote it into oblivion anyways.

It is great to see the platform is being upgraded with the money you are earning. So bravo to that and keep up the good work.

One small bug, the Safari browser is not letting people upload to DTube, when switched to Chrome the upload went just fine, but there seems to be some issue with Safari and Dtube, probably on Safari's end, but just letting you know.

Anyways peace and thanks again for the new platform.

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I don't think content can be truly censored. All DTube would be able to do is hide it on certain parts of the website (such as the homepage), or through a settings change (like the NSFW).

Thanks for the Safari tip, I will check it out whenever I have a mac in my hands.

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Yeah thanks, for sure.

I don't think content can be truly censored.

Why I love Dtube.

Yeah, I personally don't even have safari on my computer, it was fiancee and she could not upload a film for a day or so, kept saying IPFS upload error, so I made her switch to google chrome and it worked perfectly firs try. It is probably an issue with Safari which is a horrid browser.

It's great to see so much work being done on this. Are the issues with audio/video not syncing now resolved or at least better than they were?

My wife recently tried out dTube for the first time for a singing competition and a ton of people thought she was badly lip-singing the song because the audio and video had a delay even though it worked perfectly on her device and on youtube where she later uploaded it.

thanks for making this

If there will be a strict rules and a convenable system in order to fight against fraud, I think its an amazing program

Great post @heimindanger! To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed to hear your won't be turning Dtube into a business. Although, your reasoning for not continuing work on the project is solid. I was kinda hoping to see you get super rich off this app!

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Interesting project, but it never be so good as Youtube.

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Great projects; been testing with Dtube. A long way for improvements:)
-Hong Kong supporters

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Thanks for trying it out and giving DTube some exposure 😘

Hey ,
Thanks for sharing

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It's Fantastic!!! Hope youtube shits itself and dies :P

Been testing these changes for a day and they are great improvements to the site! Glad to help with the Linux script!

Great project, great ideas, great people.

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Appreciate your work dude, but one thing more, when we upload video on DTube with the description then we are not able to edit it. Kindly put that edit too in there.

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you probably want @heimindanger, this is more his question to field.

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It's in the list of things to do, yes.

Will there be an android app out any time soon? That would be amazing, or maby there is one, I only missed it?

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I hope so. Another way will be to raise funds through an ICO or something like this. Something that can work out very fine... Or does steemit do the ethereum sort of token generation? DTube can do a lot from this..?WHat do you think?

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There will probably be one, but later. I don't want to maintain multiple versions during active development.

Great!!!

Last night, my friend asked me to register dtube account for uploading video n he told me about Dtube but I knew nothing. Now i know more from you guys..i Will have it soo

I have heard also nixie tube, what is the difference both with dtube, very interesting to i read

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I have not heard of #nixietube. Is it #IPFS based?

Hey @heimindanger great post and i really love dtube and it's a real difference. Great idea and keep doing the good work plus the design isn't a bad idea by any means. I'm sure will be getting Alot support from more steemians because of this. Good job.

Interesante el comentario que hacen aquí y sirve para poder ayudar a toda la gente que está interesada este tema

i like youtube because there we can know a lot about the world.

I made my first video! And I used dtube of course.

But it doesn't load or play without long pauses. What have I done wrong? https://dtube.video/#!/v/mhrose/j9v2xny1
I thought it was the browser I used - Safari. But, now it happens on Chrome as well.

Also, it doesn't show up on a search with the word Health or Steemfest.
Appreciate any help.

I may have to resort to YouTube!

Hallo @heimindanger ,

Sorry if my tone was not right in the last message, I want to tell that I found the right format for DTube and that I think that DTube is the greatest thing that happened in Crypto this year.

I am a big fan of DTube and expect to use it a lot in the future, but I am stopping by to tell you about this "new" hype coin:


The exchange with the biggest volume of EmberCoin at the moment: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Register?referrer=Bitcoinercph

Here is the price chart of EmberCoin:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/embercoin/#charts

ember pumping 3.png

https://steemit.com/embercoin/@lasseehlers/embercoin-the-psychology-of-embercoin-1000x-before-1-of-november-2017

Very intersting! Thank you so much for sharing, there are so many nuggets of truth in this post! 😎😎😎

Honestly, I dont know where to start commending, but one thing for sure, you guys doing more than awesome. Friendly innovation per se.

Thank you for the update and awesome work you are doing!

Hola gracias por compartir esta información, no he leído juicioso todo el tema de Dtube pero si puedes responder tienes pensado implementar una App para Android y para IOS?

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It's in the list of things to do, absolutely. Not much work on the coding side to make it happen :)

However it will probably happen near the end of development in order to avoid having to maintain multiple versions and doing changes/tests for all of them.

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Fantastic project

I like to see hard working people who knows what are they doing. I'm proud to see projects like this rising. Good job. Upvoted. -#Padre

I wish I could provide an update with more 'eye-candy' features, but priorities are priorities.

We all see the hard work you're putting into this project, so no worries about candies :) There will be enough of it in the future!

This is surely one of the most important applications that has been built on the steem blockchain so far!

Youtube now will have a competition. Great Job!

Big thanks for this platform..... QUESTION --- Is there a file size limit for the upload or a time limit for video? I have slow internet ... it would be nice to see the upload % left or uploaded ... so you know if the upload is working. My internet is slow and when I upload a video ( 1 hour) it seems to crash... but look forward to seeing dtube advance... :)

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It might seem ridiculous compared to the rest we have achieved, but knowing the % of the upload is something I cannot make because of the way ipfs currently works :D

Basically just patience and you can look in your system monitor to see if you have outgoing bandwidth, if you do, it's still uploading...

This is a great project and timing of it couldn't be better. The amount of demonetized videos on YouTube is growing on a daily basis. I have seen some great Youtbers getting their incomes cut for no good reason.

Btw, I tried playing a DTube video a few days back and nothing would happen. Maybe the system can't handle heavy traffic yet?

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Btw, I tried playing a DTube video a few days back and nothing would happen. Maybe the system can't handle heavy traffic yet?

Most of the changes today address that (especially people running a local copy and the Automatic Gateway), should run way better now.

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Ok, that's good to know. I hope the system can really scale to handle all the "Youtube refugees" that I'm sure will be pouring into this service as political censorship continues on YouTube and Google.

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Which video did you try playing?

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The one with the solar eclipse: https://dtube.video/#!/v/stealthtrader/y1l68oyg

I tried it again today and it seems to work now.

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It's likely the video you were trying to watch wasn't on the gateway you were using, so you were forced to wait for the gateway to download it.

Now the gateway is assigned based on the video's hash and as such that shouldn't happen any more.

Glad to see things are better for you.

Hay @heimindanger,

at first: Congratulations to you and thank you for all the effort you‘ve spend here! You really deserve the current hype around your plattform.

The following comment is based on the assumption that I can still pay money to keep a video online even if it has a lot of downvotes. If this is not true, skip the rest of this comment :P

I really love your projects and I also like the idea behind dtube pretty much and I know the struggle of posting critical content on youtube pretty well, but I think your answer to the Copyrighted and Extremist content part is a little bit .. how to say that? .. to easy?

The first thing that came to my mind are things like child porn. At least in Germany you go to jail for up to 5 years if you own or distribute child porn and I would assume that it is something simular in other countries. As I agree with you in the point that you only provide the domain and the used software, this could still be a point @nannal should think about.

Beside that I see some moral aspects. Imagine a video someone getting raped – Could you life with the thoughts that everyone can see the most awful moment of the victims life? Or another sample that is not that hard: Image someone would upload a nacked picture of you with your name in the video listed on google. And I guess everyone who thinks a little bit about this can identify a lot more samples like the ones above.

I want to point out that, from my point of view, there needs to be a mechanism to get content removed from the plattform. For sure developing the machism will be really hard without implementing something that can be abused to remove opinions someone does not like, but I think without this kind of mechanism the plattform could be easily used to destroy someones life as long as I have ~0.44$ / 100Mb to keep my video up.

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The price is actually 0.044$ per GB per month. IPFS has some mechanism to block videos actually and if he receives any DMCA notice or court order, @nannal will delete the file from ipfsstore.it instantly, I don't think he wants to go to jail.

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Thank you very much for the clarification @heimindanger - Good to know that you / @nannel are prepared for those cases.

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if you already have a mechanism for removing illegal content (copyright DMCA infringement, pedophilia etc) why are you introducing the "downvote to 0 = not stored" thing? it will obviously be abused for censorship purposes by powerful entities.

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as long as I have ~0.44$ / 100Mb to keep my video up

Way less actually, it's $0.044 USD/GB/month. So 100 MB or so would be about $0.003771/month or about $0.045252/year.

$0.44 would be about 10 years so way longer.

I rarely vote these days but you are getting a big upvote from me. Nice work.

On Extremist content.
I'm with Voltaire on this one:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

And btw who could even define Extremist content? The government, SJWs, the fake news media?
What one may see as extremist content someone else sees that as the opposite.
The only solution is to stick with free speech otherwise the censorship spirals out of control.

We really needed this one. One can carve from Steem blockchain everything that he can imagine

This is best channel I have watched it's best way of dtube is better techinque ,it will help on many way for users have and it clears in best way

Great job. I do hope that you reduce the fee from 25% to say 10% soon. That will attract more users.

Thank you for your work and engagement! I have already uploaded several videos and do my best to make DTube widely known in Germany.

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I saw your video. I got clickbaited by the 'Die DTube' in the title though, then I understood it was just german language :D

Thanks a lot for promoting DTube to the german community!

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Yes, that is true. He helps also in the Sign Up process if needed in german language.

Thx you very much. I wish you all the best with Dtube, I hope you get a real business out of it. You started alone, believed in it. Invested time and money. You deserve it to get the needed credits.. I never posted a single vid on Yout... but I used your service from day 1..

25% is a lot, I earn few cents from my video, it will be nothing, and how you take those 25% if you have just the posting password ? you said in the beggining that you can't transfer money using our posting key, please explain !

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The trick is the beneficiary rewards. I wrote a full article about it and even made a page to do it yourself if you want to share your articles rewards with someone else who participated: https://steemit.com/steemit/@heimindanger/split-the-rewards-of-your-posts-with-other-beneficiaries--only-on-steemwhalescom-

And it doesn't require more than the posting key, as you just add a list of beneficiaries along the post.

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so dtube don't take those 25% automatically, it will take it just if we post on steemitwhales ?

Dtube is amazing project! I think it will boost the price of steem!

I was waiting for this article for a long time @Heimindanger you are da boss Downloading script right now.

This post is chocked full of information for the novice and the expert tech person. One of the most poignant statements offers hope for those viewed as not meeting YouTube standards for monetization.

I agree with @heimindanger when he says:

If the upvotes outweigh the downvotes, the video goes up and might be displayed in hot/trending. Otherwise, it ends at $0 and won't be stored. I believe any living thing is able to see good from wrong, and every STEEM account has at least 6 SP, so why not use it? If you think something shouldn't be on DTube or SteemIt, just downvote it!

Those wanting more 'regulation' please realize that over-regulation is why mental-health workers are not able to help more hurting people. The regulations in NYC don't transfer to CA., and often require very-expensive re-licensure. So, be careful what you ask for when you ask others to decide what's best, when it's in your ability to decide.

JUST AS WITH POLITICS, ALLOW YOUR VOTE TO SPEAK FOR YOU.
Peace!

Please remember to keep those in the eye of TS Harvey in your prayers.

Thanks for the post. It explains a lot, especially a problem with no or choppy video playback. That was my biggest concern.

A decentralised platform whose communities interest in it's content determines the contents disability. It's brilliant. No big brother, no boards deciding the algorithms, no unjust takedowns.

It makes me wonder how many copy cat platforms are going to pop up in the near future.

A huge thank you goes to @heimindanger for the time, effort and energy thats gone into creating this.

I posted a video and had no problems, and it was my first ever video. I'm looking forward to videos from my friends!

Hey I got a question. I'm running pale moon on debian and I get a blank page. But when viewed on chromium I can see the site. I don't like using google products so what should I do?

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I just tried in Palemoon, yeah it breaks right now. I will investigate more.

Chromium is what I use. Firefox should work fine. Opera works too. I've seen a friend using Microsoft Edge succesfully as well.

I absolutely love the idea of D-tube.

I'm all for free-speech and hate to see what Youtube has been doing. Especially since the media/corporations tell the masses's what they should be mad at.

Good luck with it all, I've already started using it and I'm going to be doing my best at spreading the word about it as well.

You did a great job with dTube and you deserve every upvote and all the fee's you make.
The video screen size is nice and uploads are fast.

I just want to say THANK YOU for DTube! I love the platform and I think it's getting popular really fast and will only get better!

I appreciate your forward thinking and hard work and I really enjoy putting my videos up on DTube.

Just wanted to let you know I love it and will do anything I can to support the platform!

Can't wait to see what's next!

I've seen quite a few people posting TV shows and movies to dtube in their posts. One in particular has posted over a dozen and they copy the synopsis straight out of other websites word for word. It's disheartening to see this and I understand that we all must play a role in working to fight against this kind of abuse.

I don't want Dtube to become something that is used for plagarism. It's a great tool and it makes me sad to see people abusing it.

On a lighter note, thanks for all you've done to contribute to this community. I hope some day I can devote more time to Steemit and try to keep it free of junk content.

I found steem because of Dtube so thanks!

This is truly a gift to humanity. And, these developers are what heros of the people looks like in 2017. As one of the humans, I humbly express my deepest gratitude.

Should you still want to consider business models for the core, or it's offshoots, please contact me. I would be happy to help you think through and do this, as I have a great deal of experience in the 'old world' that could help guide. In this case, I imagine it would include engaging the community in the development of the business models, but could be a useful consideration process for other decentralized developers, as well.

Thank you once again for your heroic efforts. Your vacation will surely be that much richer after these achievements. Should your vacation lead you to Southern California and you would like to think further in person, please let me know.

The dialogue around these topics is not only interesting, but gives me great hope for the future of humanity. Not too long ago, only a few people could have input on topics like this. Even as we have different opinions on specific issues, the chance to be here together to have input on this is revolutionary.

Best wishes,
Lisa

I went to your "Mirror that will never die", and all I got was this...

ipfs resolve -r /ipns/Qmb8hgdQoyotsnUj3JKWvWzcfA9Jx4Ak2ao1XzCVLfDtuB/: Could not resolve name.

Am I missing something?
One other point; I went to D Tube and TRIED to watch several videos, many would not load, and others told me they were not compatible with my video player.
In addition, I have been trying to log in and create an account for several days now, without success. I will admit that I am no genius, but even I should be able to figure out how to do this, shouldn't I?
So, while I like the concept, and would love to participate, I seem to be locked out. Kind of hard to grab my attention (or, business), when I can't even use the product.
Hope things work out for you, let me know if it ever starts working.
Be well.

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Same here. Can't resolve the IPFS link.

Where are you getting stuck during the sign up?

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I could not get started until I had accessed my Steemit account for the private key needed to log in.
I am now able to log in, I just can't watch any videos, because they all freeze and say my video player was "incompatible". And that is not even mentioning the five to ten minute wait for the video to load, before it told me I couldn't watch the video that was loading.
Like I said, it is a good idea, just let me know when it starts working properly.
Be well.

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the "incompatible" problem is when it takes the video too long to load. Every new user will help the videos load faster. That's how IPFS works. If you get the "video incompatible" error wait a few minutes. The IPFS gateway will be fetching the video and it should work if you reload the page after a few minutes (5-10).

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Videos with very low ratings will expire and never load. We will need to find a way to filter these out from the Dtube interface.

This project is progressing really, really well. Congratulations to everybody involved.

Full upvote and resteem, of course!

Awesome, thank you for all this info, i saw a youtube post by Jerry Bienfield about this, but now with this info i am gonna actually try and start uploading a few videos, to try out Dtube, it looks super helpful for beginners and people in between. Thank you for the post, downloading the script now!!!

I am completely blown away by what you are doing. Disruptive technology at it's best. Thank you @heimindanger

It is a game-changer, so thanks for making it. It's going to get interesting when the lawyers take notice of what's going on and realise they can't take it down totally.

I'm glad you're making money on this, as far as censorship i like your stance as well, keep up the great work.


very hard to be a beginner steemit to get a lot of upvote

Is there a time-limit or a file size limit for DTube videos? @heimindanger
Have not been able to upload [a nine and a half minute video.]
What do I need to do?

DTube is now my platform of choice for video.
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Same here. A short 3 minutes video works well, but if try a video with more than 10 minutes, I can see that there isn´t any upload on my traffic monitor.

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Thank you, @naru
For now I'll stick to 3 minute videos.

This is cool! Is there any benefit for a #witness to run the dtube.video ipfs? Does it add another layer of payouts at all? Or just help the community? Please let me know, I am setting up my client this evening for becoming a witness!

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It helps DTube and IPFS, not really STEEM. What we may need in the future, is more Gateways to serve the videos, and that requires more than a home PC and a home internet connection. If one time comes where we need more gateways, I will probably ask the STEEM witnesses for help!

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You should buy a .ru domain
.ru domains are more lenient(Most of the pirated movies streaming websites use it and last for years!!!)
I know for i used one .ru free movie site for years.

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Thank you for the information!