What you call 'waking up', I call 'dumbing down' or Psy-Oping. You won't admit to believe anyone who has seen the curvature anyway. Just as you ignore everything else that shows the earth is a globe.

I see the curvature quite regularly actually. I grew up spending my time at the beach on Port Philip Bay (Victoria, Australia) on the opposite side of the bay to Melbourne. I still get to spend a lot of time there every Summer.

From there, you can see the city of Melbourne and it appears to be right on the water, which it's not. It is impossible to see the beaches or the suburb of South Melbourne which are in between the city and the beach on that side of the bay.

The city is high enough to be visible from the other side of the bay.
On a 'good' day with the aid of refraction, the city appears much closer and on a 'bad' day you can hardly see it at all.

So you believe stories from sailors, known 'story' tellers and exaggerators, yet you refuse to believe people with real credentials and real experience, hmmmmm. That says a lot.

Refraction makes it possible to see large distances out at sea, that's only one possibility for how they may see a lighthouse miles beyond the curve.

Don't forget that those lighthouses are also pretty high up which you'd have to take into account when applying curvature math which demonstrates how it is possible too. But you'll ignore both of those explanations too.

Please Mr Flatearther, explain to me these two things:

• How is the Sun visible 24/7 from Antarctica during Summer time in the Southern Hemisphere?
• Your lot often use crepuscular rays (an optic illusion) to try and show that the Sun isn't that high in the sky, how then are Anticrepuscular rays possible? (I've seen them and taken photos)

I'll leave it there for now, just answer those two successfully and I'll be prepared to hear more about your wacky ideas.