HF21/HF22: Back in the Game --- Starting Downvote War or Making community Stable

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HF21/HF22 : New Era of Downvoting


                  A major downvoting war is spreading on Steemit.


I usually don,t make posts on steemit but I love to read posts here. I enjoy reading posts everyday specially After HF21/HF22. After reading the posts and seeing upvotes on the post I was curious, what people are getting more downvotes for, I mean now people are downvoting more post than usual. Most of the deserving post don,t get too many downvotes and some post that don,t deserve downvotes are getting downvotes. Since HF 21/22 Downvote on this platform is more widespread. 

The provision of free downvote pools that do not reduce curation has caused many downvote players to continue trailing their target accounts. People are downvoting on purpose and some whales are downvoting good posts because they don,t like it. Downvotes are to reduce spam not for personal reasons.


In fact, the purpose of a good downvote pool is to return the reward to the reward pool for posts that commit plagiarism, spam or cheat. However, there is the fact that many downvotes are performed without consideration of good intentions. This makes downvote a battlefield in Steem. 

     

Source pixbay-image 


 Click to check the details of downvotes   You can check out the detail of a user how many people he has downvoted on particular days. and you will see a graph of downvotes he has done recently by the user.  If you hover on the chart, it will give you the names: 

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 I,m not targeting someone I,m just giving an example of downvotes   

Recently I was reading the post of @xpilar and I loved his idea of downvote control.

 My suggestion for the next Hardfork is 

The use of downvote / flagging cannot come until you give a factual reason with warning. And the warnings should then come with a yellow flag
If the warnings are not heeded, it will be possible next time to give the red flag, but even then it must be described why the red flag comes.

Anyway, you should already enter a field that says you must comment before you can access flag / downvote 


You can read his post here 

                                             Downvote War


  Recently I have seen the downvotes on @dobartim post and he is getting the downvotes on his all post I did,t brother to find the reason but he is getting a lot of downvotes from some specific users in the return he is also downvoting other users as you can see in this graph below. This is not a good thing for steemit future this is live a downvote war between whales. same goes for other places where people are downvoting for their personal reasons. 

@curangel is doing best for this platform and I have seen he is downvoting to some users and in return, they are also downvoting to it. @curangel is getting downvotes from haejin and also from dobartim and from many other users.

 
@rokhani mention something interesting in his post about how he is being downvoted by some accounts.

 Has your post ever been downvoted by another account, that you have never even been in touch with?
Have you ever seriously looked at who the downvoter your posts?
Several times I was downvoted by accounts that I did not know and were not related to. In my last post I Like After Tea
There was two downvotes that I got. Here is the scrrenshoot.
 
 I am curious about these downers and then I see their account. When I open and look at transactions in my Wallet, I remember something interesting. Both of these accounts transfer Steem to the account that used to downvote me a lot. 
 Downvoters sometimes don't see their downvote as returning rewards to the reward pool. At least we can see the downstream related accounts.
In the case that I experienced, I see it from several things. 

Source: @rokhani Post  


              Downvoting is good or bad for steemit


Everyone knows downvotes are the part of steemit community and we can,t survive without downvote.  Downvotes play a very big role in the proof of the brain economy. Without it, the system can’t really work. As we’ve seen over the past few years. Now that we have hard fork 21/22, we have free downvotes, which means that you can now downvote people without losing on curation rewards. It’s very important that we all contribute by downvoting bad actors so the good actors can rise. But downvoting the spam is the best thing to do for this platform and downvoting on purpose is,t helping this community to grow.

Downvotes are for people who are spamming and trying to steal the rewards. spammer like who are consistently self upvoting and the people who are buying votes from bid bots to be on trending page and there post don,t deserve to be on trending.

 The main problem is that finding bad content to downvote is,t it, even if you want to downvote. You get free downvotes every day which means that you have to be there every day to downvote stuff if you don’t want to waste downvoting power. Downvoting helps to maintain this platform stable. There is no doubt Downvoting is a good thing, And What if someone starts downvoting only because of he/she has more steem power and no one can face him or they start downvoting because of some personal reason or they don,t love your content even if it takes you an entire day to write. This type of downvote decreases the stability of this blockchain and people with low steem don,t even bother to stay on this platform where they get downvote without any alert and without any reason they get the downvotes. No one wants to invest if there is no assurance of his/her safety. Investor Invest only if he has guaranteed that his investment is safe and secure. But if there is downvote war then there will be no safety measurements and no one want to invest in steem. 

Downvotes can lead to a terrible war between steem communities. If the war between two whales starts then this is,t the war between the two whales but also between the people who they are following. After H21/22 has downvoting ratio has gradually increased. Now only we can do is try not to downvote for ourselves but try downvote to save the reward pool.

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Great post where facts come out

Thanks for liking my idea
Regards @xpilar

thanks for your concern. Recently I was checking about the downvotes and I realized that the downvote ratio is gradually increasing. People in this community are not only downvoting the spam post but also the post they don,t like. your Idea of the yellow flag is impressive. Yellow Flag for warning and also the detail why you downvote this post so the user will try to avoid such type of mistake.

Yes @wajahatsardar,
everyone must be given an opportunity to correct their mistakes or no one will learn from it

I recall @transisto mentioning something about downvotes cannot knock posts way below zero.

Might be a nice change now. While we are at it, we should make changes to the rep system as well. Better yet, get rid of it.

I think a big part of the downvoting culture is people are tired of seeing big wallets voting for big wallets, paid for votes overshadowing well written original pieces on the trending page, one picture and one paragraph getting a substantial reward. Plus they get 2 downvotes for free. 😉

Flagging for a simple disagreement in the amount of rewards a post is getting if perfectly fine. Just be real enough to leave them a comment as to why. I am in no way saying that abusive downvoting isn’t happening but now users have the ability to use 2 100% downvotes and they are using them. This downvote storm will pass and while it is here make sure you use your 2 free downvotes. HAHAHAHA

People get butt hurt that they get caught Bid botting every single comment they make for example. They get flagged and their paid for votes wipes away. Then they go on a flagging rampage and play the victim. Sorry you got caught milking the rewards pool and abusing Bid Bots. Be honest, is it really that hard to do?

As far as the so called Steem Dufus League goes... camillesteemer... their downvotes aren’t big enough to cause any real decline in post payout. They are turds and you should just let the turds lay, or like those gnats flying around you face that you just can’t seem to swipe away.

I know that but you did,t check out the downvoting ratio of @acdiyo and @kingcrown they are downvoting each other's post consistently. and many other user are being downvoted by these two.
I,m against bid bot vote and I love when the user who bought upvote from bid bot gets a downvote. but sometimes people downvote for revenge. that,s what I don,t like. recently i got downvotes form ocbd , threespeak , theycallmeden and many other users who are following them only because I got upovte from smartsteem. but I did,t bought vote from smart steem, now smartsteem is manually curating.
They did,t warn me, they just did downvote. then I ask ocbd to review this, I did,t bpught any upvote.
One who has power is doing what ever he want to do. there is no stopping him

Misunderstandings happen, it human nature. Smartsteem has a very ugly past of upvoting scammers and spammers and allowed many to abuse its services. I don’t know the “whole” back story on this but just chill and keep doing your thing and let this whole hard Fork smooth itself out.
If the big wallets want to flag big wallets... whatever that is their deal. If people revenge flag, that is their deal and on their conscience. Just keep being honest with yourself and your doings and things will be just fine.

Thanks for your concern. happy journey

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