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RE: SteemSummer May 25, 26, 27 near Palm Beach, Florida, USA?

in #dlive5 years ago (edited)

wow. very disappointed you have not come to me to discuss this. one email would have been enough. The name SteemFest is reserved for SteemFest. You can not just take that, i hope you see that. Minimally you could have reached out.
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Ok, obviously while this post was trending @jerrybanfield was sleeping. Just now we had a about it and the name for the event is changed to SteemJ. Thank you Jerry for renaming the event, I hope it will be a nice meetup event.

I hope you understand that I try to 'guard' the name SteemFest to keep the community informed and clear about when it happens, so people can save up some, and are not in doubt when & where to go to or having a FOMO. Since 2016 I've been working on SteemFest and gave it a lot of time (ask my gf - first edition lost 10 kilo's of weight), then with the help of the crew and with the trust of the community (including yourself) it came what it was to be. I studied Hotelschool and worked at events for over 15 years (including organising events in Detroit, USA) and this time invested makes me want to treat it as my baby. Quality assurance is important to me, and when I am ready to trust others with this, (not trying to be arrogant here), it will be announced, but up till then I like to set the standard for SteemFest.

To keep things special this is also why there is 'decent' time in between every edition. It's the same as with for example, I don't know, Burning Man (not comparing or whatever hahaha way different league). Of course that is a great event and one comes home: 'wow I wish it was already that time again'. But that doesn't mean there should be 5 Burning Man's every year. Giving something time to digest and make it special by having enough time in between editions helps with making the actual event 100% epic.

All in all it is just unfortunate that you had posted the event by using the name SteemFest. As the post got trending I felt I had to say something about it (see above, obviously my first reaction/emotions as I was quite mad) as people where reaching out and asking about it. Ofcourse that is not a great way to discover such a thing, hence my response. None-the-less my response was a 'reaction' on your 'action'.

Good luck with the event, unfortunately I will have just left USA 1 week prior to the end of May and juggling family life with conferences / events and all such cannot make me stay longer.

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I now see you have reached out in Steemit.chat. As I was travelling back from my holiday I had not seen your message. In your message you ask about using the name SteemFest, but only if you have my 'blessing'. Now I am not a god, but certainly did initiate the event SteemFest. So you mention you will only use it when I say it is ok. However you don't wait for a reply from me. That's pretty weird.

This is just using the brand, carefully build up since 2016.

Here is my reply in Steemit.chat:

You could have waited with a post until a reply from me. You could have mailed me. No it is not ok to use the name SteemFest. This is reserved for the event we intend to organise annually. Why? We want to bring together as many people as possible. It is a centralised event around a very decentralised community. The idea is that by having a clear 'wave' in events, people have time to prepare, come and don't feel in doubt whether: should I go to this, or to that one. It has been only 3 months since last SteemFest and the event for this year is already in preperation. Your post received so many upvotes because it uses the name SteemFest. But you have not asked (or waited for) permission to use it and just blatantly post and use the name. I am very disappointed.

Please refrain from using the name SteemFest in any of your event communication, also not tricks like: "The event formerly known as SteemFest 2.5" whatever and delete this post or adjust the post.

For completeness here is the message sent midnight 3.30 AM about 36 hours before this post was made. Screen Shot 2018-02-28 at 09.21.31.png

Some people just want to use others success as a platform for their own ideas. We all know there is only one Steemfest that is organized by you and it is celebrated by the end of the year. Flagged this post at 100%, nothing against Jerry but everything against hijacking an established brand & name.

Yeah, that's not right. If there is not a trademark then technically he can do whatever he wants, but it still doesn't make it right.

Also, who in the hell would book Kesha for this community? And in Florida?

I could think of at least 2-3 other places that would be more hospital to this community than Florida.

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lol, your username is hilarious in this context

And in May. Florida isn't hospitible to anyone in May.

I agree it was bad he used the Steemfest brand without authorization.....but his plan is also a very good thing to the steem blockchain...why don't you get to an agreement with him @roelandp if Lisbon is ok, why not Florida? I wish to hear Kesha's music soon on Dsound

Can I hijack his brand and shamelessly ask for his witness votes to empower people living under the poverty line around the world?

I guess he should have declined the payout for it...

There's only one Steemfest, and we want it to be in your hands @roelandp.
Also the timing is no valid argument at all. Waiting for it makes it even more exciting, and we love to be excited about that one Steemfest :-)

@roelandp Can we have Disturbed, MGMT, Chainsmokers, Post Malone, Blink 182, and Kings of Leon at SteemFest 3?

Thanks! Looking forward to it!

jk ;-)

lol. only if you delegate 2 million SP to me.

No problem!

Hey everyone! Send @brianphobos liquid STEEM so I can delegate it to @roelandp ......... :-)

P.S. Don't actually do that!

it was not good the fact he didn't have your authorization....but his plan is actually a good thing to the blockchain...get to an agreement with him....you can let him use the name in the condition that he gives 5% of the revenues to a charity(example)

I'd be down to start a witness server and give 99% of the revenue after whatever the server costs end up being to charities on the blockchain. Anyone want in?

Although that lineup is a joke, I'll tell you the same thing I mentioned down below...I can get you great pricing on legit talent. Feel free to hit me up anytime. Can't wait for steemfest 3

roelandp I am part of a group to help autistic people in Portugal...... we are online but we want to create a physical thing ....our face group is https://www.facebook.com/groups/173926445980457/ .....I suggest you would allow him to use the name in exchange of donating a small percentage of the revenues to @autismoportugal what do you say? we would be eternally grateful to you

Jerry makes daily revenue he deposits into the @budgets account and his @jerrybanfieldroi account. Uses both to "fund" projects. He doesn't need to hijack the SteemFest name if he actually wanted to give your group money.

Don't forget Imagine Dragons lol.

Good Point! Imagine Dragons, Shindown, and AWOLNATION will be added to the lineup!

I'm having too much fun with this. In general I think @jerrybanfield is trying to do good for the platform. Sometimes it may be misdirected or rushed. I will likely do a post on it. I did have him on an autovote but I took that vote away for this post.

U have point sir.. and I agree he cant use the STEEMFEST brand name... without your permission... I actually ... I came here because the title. ..

By the way, was is already disclosed where the real Steemfest 3 will take place?

Shame on everybody who upvoted! I flagged maybe 5 times since June 2016! This Post got a clear 💯 down!
#jerryisoutofhismind

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Upvoting pure gold

DYING LOL ahahahaha xD

Wish I had more upvote to give. Clever.

Just a small update from me: for me this issue is now resolved. Just as @arcange mentions Dlive is still mentioning the old post... Somehow that site does not get updated? Cache issues I guess.

I really like to follow @lukestokes posts/comment on this page. For me the issue is resolved. Good luck with the event. It will be a great meetup!

peace.
I will try to reach out to Dlive about their site workings, it must be a glitch, or it is not 'decentralised' ;P

What are @lukestokes posts/comments on this page?

Your very cool man...
When your respons coment .. i like you

You responses and way of handling this entire situation were exemplary! A REAL example to all. Seriously, respect to u mate!

Everyone, this is a Steemit Meetup not a SteemFEST! While the action to arrange a Steemit meetup is admirable, using the name SteemFEST to promote it is very disappointing.

The SteemFEST name has been built with unaccounted sweat over the past couple years and is fully endorsed by Steemit Inc.!! Using it like this just to get some attention is simply despicable.
My thoughts are with you @roelandp, as I am one of the ones who has had the opportunity to work with you in orgnising a SteemFest and know the amount of work you put into it. Sorry to see this happening.

Ohh i have no idea agree with u

Not cool.. Should have waited for @roelandp's permission..

Change it immediately.. Steemfest can only be one.. And its only if @roelandp is organising it along with his and @firepower crew.. No one has any right to use it..

I agree with you 💯👍 just followed you have a nice day

This is wrong way @jerrybanfield - you cannot just take SteemFest, you should wait for @roelandp and other creators response / permission before you did such post... really dissapointed

:) Support for @roelandp

Well said -why am I not surprised by this post by this guy only..... Hijacker. No idea why people follow and vote that personality anyway - but shit follows shit

Thank you for saying this, and I'm not even being sarcastic. I mean it.
Thank you.

:-) I am happy to repeat this whenever required. Thought common knowledge.

Now...that is funny.

Seriously don't apologise, because it's only trending because he massively self-upvoted it and put it in the spotlight.
You are 100% correct and he is 100% in the wrong.

I know this might not be the best place to ask, but can you tell me more about "including organizing events in Detroit, USA"?
I live and work in Detroit and would love to get down on some events!
Cheers.

Hi Ssimkins9, i was using that to illustrate me being an event organiser, including foreign (US based) events as the post suggested (maybe older version of the post) it would be difficult for me to organise something maybe in the US or elsewhere (e.g. 2017 SteemFest was in Lisbon, vs me living in Amsterdam). -

Anyhow back to your question. I used to work at The Generator, which organises still nowadays TodaysArt.nl festival here in The Hague, Netherlands. Back then (2004-2005) we had a couple of events surrounding the DEMF. I remember a night in The Oslo (cellar under the Sushi(?) restaurant). Also we hosted those two years 1 stage on the DEMF during the weekender at Heart Plaza.

Nothing as of current, and as said it was more to illustrate international event experience :)

ps you got me googling, here is an old clip from it:

Roger that! Sounds like your experience has taken you to some pretty interesting places! That video from 2004 was great! Haha, funny to see how style has changed so much in 14 years. And sadly, Oslo is closed :(

Thanks for taking the time to clarify.

I think you were completely justified in your reaction, and in protecting the brand name of the meetup that you organize.

While I do hope the meetup is enjoyable for those that choose to attend, it sounds sketchy at best...especially due to trying to use someone else's name without their permission.

i have a question why when i use bid based upvote bots do i just break even or lose and not make any money? My example post is below where i bid like 0.67 sbd and it just paid out the same amount although it said the post was worth 1.33sbd after inflation when i first posted it was 1.42? please help i am confused thanks =]

https://steemit.com/photograph/@steemingmark/tai-chi-in-the-park-shanghai-photo-1

Because they're designed to take your money, not give you money.

o right i was not aware thanks. so they are just to advertise yourself? how else do you get your content seen and upvoted? are curation trails a good way to start? or investing more money? do you know any good and active discord i can use? thanks a lot

If only I lived in the USA.. would love to come to a meetup like this.. will have to check out if there are any around where I will in Australia.,

It's very bad how someone who is big in this community to do something like this it's not a good look for him hope use can sort it out I just followed you and hope you enjoy the rest of the week 👍

Fucking 299$ for a meetup to meet this donkey. Are you serious? 5k SP delegation and its for free LOL.

HOW COULD HE EVEN THINK.......HE COULD!
I am speechless!
#jerrysmeetup is the most he should call his event
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hahahaha

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That made me laugh, thank you! :D

Hahha I am still 😂 Laughing and Now even more because we can laugh together 🙈

Bad Jerry!

Are you looking to go to Steemfest 3? And where would you prefer it to be?

I would love to take @roeland and all of you to Bali. I did events there for many years and it would be smashing to do at least @steemfest 4 in SE Asia! Let’s talk Roeland :)

I'm happy with anywhere that's warm, or not if that's how it is!

Saving my STEEM up ready! night night :D

Vienna would be fun as well :)

wow incredible @roelando comment aja get vote beyond post and wow very tempting, and when ya @adnan-mp got vote from that many post, good and very extraordinary @roelandp. greetings of friendship from me to you, and to your fans

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