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RE: The Deep-State Pivot: The Russian Narrative Fails, Let's Try Civil War
I haven't seen hammers and sickles at any of these events. I have seen plenty of Nazi and Confederate flags. I don't see any Bolsheviks murdering Americans in the streets. If I found myself in the company of a group that advocated racism and genocide, I would leave. If I was a member of a political party that made it a common necessity to defend Nazis, I would switch parties.
What happened in Charlottesville, the fellow who's car was being attacked whose response is to plow into a crowd, was disgusting. Saying 'murdering americans in the streets' is a bit of a histrionic oversell. The only large scale murdering I've seen by a racialist group in recent memory was the slaughter of law enforcement in Texas by BLM. This is one of the many reasons individuals on the right are increasingly angry/uncomfortable, the collapse of law and order. With regards to the republican party making 'common cause', the republican party is still dominated by immensely corrupt swamp-folks, I don't think there's a threat of an outbreak of Nazism in the ranks of those who serve a Rothschild master. You can rest easy, our nation is still largely controlled by forces seeking the destruction of western culture.
The "fellow" was a Nazi. This is public information. The fact that you are trying to turn a right wing extremist's terrorist attack into an act of self defense speaks volumes to your character. The Alex Jones conspiracy crap doesn't help you look too smart either. If you are looking for the forces seeking the destruction of western culture, you need only look in the mirror.
Not a fan of Alex Jones, to put it mildly.. . hes a huckster and a charlatan who takes wild speculative leaps, and does far more harm than good. Your ad-hominem aside, I'm not sure what you mean when you speak so definitively about this man being a 'Nazi'. Do you know the definition of this term, by chance? Lastly, you really need to do your research before speaking so definitively on matters of such import, there are numerous pictures of Antifa/etc anti-American thugs attacking his vehicle just before the incident.
Lastly, some research might be in order with regards to the foundations of western culture. I'd wager what you're currently championing is something very, very different.
According to USA Today and New York Times, James Alex Fields was a member of Vanguard America. Vanguard America is a white nationalist group that was providing security for Richard Spencer. These people are Nazis. I have done my research, now you do yours.
What is your definition of Western Culture? I live on the West Coast. Is that West enough for you?
What I am championing is a country that is inclusive to all. The foundations of Western Culture were constructed by slaves upon the graveyards of natives. We, as the beneficiaries of that historic injustice, need to recognize that the descendants of the conquered and enslaved are now our neighbors and countrymen. European settlers came here to get away from religious bigots and imperial warmongering. Now some of their descendants support banning certain religions, and invading other countries to plunder their resources.
Many times, over the course of history, the foundations of western culture have been challenged. Each time we are tested by history, we come out stronger and wiser. We defeated Robert E. Lee. We defeated Hitler. We defeated Osama Bin Laden. Progress and equality always beats fascism and bigotry.
Do you get triggered when you see a confederate statue fall? Why should you? The Confederates are traitors. They lost. They are losers. Losers don't get participation trophies.
It's good that you recognize Alex Jones as a huckster and a charlatan. Now please recognize Donald Trump as the con-artist that he truly is. Many respectable and critically thinking conservatives have already figured it out.
Joe Scarborough figured it out. He left the Republican Party out of disgust for Trumpism.
Yesterday Bill Burr said, "I'm done with that fucking guy."
More will continue to denounce him. His poll numbers get lower every week. One by one, Americans that voted for Trump are figuring out the ugly truth for themselves. A billionaire con-man played on your fears and manipulated you into supporting him. Obama is not a secret Muslim born in Kenya, and he isn't going to take your guns or institute sharia law. Trump never had a secret plan to defeat ISIS in the first 100 days. Obamacare was neither repealed nor replaced. Mexico is not going to pay for the wall. Are you getting the picture yet?
If that isn't enough, let's talk about banking and currency, since that seems to be your pet issue. The U.S. Dollar has lost 8% of it's value since Trump took office. Trump has filled his cabinet with billionaires and CEOs from companies like Goldman Sachs. How exactly is that draining of the swamp going?
So now you gotta ask yourself. Are you gonna be one of the last people to come to terms with the obvious? Are you going to be counted among intellectually honest conservatives that are abandoning Trumpism now, or will you be among the small percentage of the most gullible and naive fools that lack the wisdom or maturity to admit they made a mistake. You are a part of history. The decision is yours.
Chalidore, you're so chock full of controlled-press talking points that I'm afraid it'd be pointless to try to drag you back out of your twilight-zone echo chamber, so I'll be brief so that we don't waste one another's time. . .
Fields was a member of no organization, according to the organizations themselves. You can continue to trust the same press that promised us a Hillary victory via hundreds of completely false push-polls, the same swamp media that has lured us into military adventure after military adventure to enrich those who fund/control them, the same swamp media that has tried every last trick in the bag to dislodge a president that has proven to be their worst nightmare, dismantling the edifice of DC corruption brick by brick. . but pardon me if I approach them with some skepticism, and don't allow them to 'call the tune' with regards to how we should think and feel as a nation. Its very clear they have an agenda to push, and you're one of the few I've met recently that doesn't yet seem to recognize this.
To deny how this president has revitalized an economy after a predecessor that literally doubled our nat'l debt in a mere 8 years (think of this. . . seriously. . ) is just lunacy, even your friends at CNN are forced to recognize this and pay the facts limited lip service here. With regards to erasing our history to force our culture towards cultural marxist chaos, yes, I'm opposed to it. Nearly every founding father was a slave owner. . . Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, all have stunningly racist quotes, and were men (unlike Trump) who truly believed the races differed on a genetic level to such an extent as to be completely incompatible to live together. If you think this ends with the tearing down of a few confederate statues, you're completely delusional. This is a power play, transparent to those with open eyes, to pull our nation to the left. . and those who have hated Trump and the downtrodden middle class he represents embrace these narratives unconditionally and step forward to champion them, should be recognize for who they are: Either immensely gullible individuals incapable of recognizing an attempted coup when they see one, or knowing purveyors of culture/order destroying cultural-marxist chaos, quite literally threatening to throw our nation back into open civil/race war.
I disagree with your identity politics. Trump seeks to unite people under the flag, the left seems to want people to look down, recognize their skin color, and act accordingly. . . and irony of ironies, you people call the right 'racist'. I couldn't be more disgusted by your tactics.
I understand what motivates the press. Don't assume to know what my experiences are or where I get my information. If you don't trust USA Today or The New York Times, I can find you plenty of reputable independent citizen investigative journalists, people with proven track records of accuracy and impartiality. Take Philip DeFranco, for example. Here we have someone with millions of views and subscribers, and he has taken plenty of heat from folks both on the left and right. His impartiality is actually so solid that nobody has yet determined how he votes or what party he is in, if any at all. I don't agree with everything he says. A lot of liberals think he is impartial to the point of being a racist apologist. I will post his video here, and hopefully you will watch it. He packs more information into 12 minutes than I could get across spending hours typing you a manifesto.
The videos and photos don't lie. This was a terrorist attack by a white supremacist. If you find yourself providing cover for a Nazi terrorist, you really need to ask some hard questions about exactly what flag you are loyal to.
If you would like to know more about my history, please read this blog entry. If nothing else, it will provide significant insight into who you are debating and what brought me to where I am now.
https://steemit.com/politics/@chalidore/a-relatively-brief-recollection-of-events-and-experiences-responsible-for-shaping-my-current-political-affiliation
I happen to respect DeFranco, even if I don't always agree. . one of the most objective voices in the public eye (no doubt soon to be censored by YouTube, as so many on the right have been, the moment he refuses to stay within their PC bounds).
The more I examine what occurred in Charlotte, objectively, the more angry I become. It seems a demonstration was planned to protect a statute many felt shouldn't be torn down, the vast majority of whom weren't racist or hateful. Suddenly, people were bus'ed in (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee), with 'Vice' in tow to make sure to capture it all in high definition, and the mass media plays this video on loop, non stop, fear-mongering and mischaracterizing and exaggerating, with a healthy scoop of outright fabrications. The reasoning behind all of this is obvious to me, there's a cabal that wants our President terminated, no matter the means or methods, no matter the cost, and the press is certainly marching in lockstep.
Nothing about this smells right to me. Nobody I know would ever support a plowing a car into a crowd. . . no sane, decent person would. Yet, the effort to associate this action to everyone in attendance, and then taking the further leap to associate this action with everyone on the 'alt right', and many are now taking the further leap of associating the act with all Conservatives/Christians. . . this all seems so transparent.
YouTube, Facebook, and other social media are cracking down on known Nazi and Confederate propagandists because there was a terrorist attack by a white supremacist. DeFranco isn't going to get banned, because he is not a propagandist for Nazis and Klansmen.
There have been many acts of violence committed by people parroting the words of the alt-right movement, even several murders. Here is a list.
http://fozmeadows.tumblr.com/post/164164615366/you-antifa-guys-are-actually-more-hateful-and
What makes this one stand out is that James Alex Fields was an active member of Vanguard America. This is the first time an attack like this has occurred without there being at least one degree of separation between the murderer and actual alt-right organizers. That dynamic now puts the actions of folks like Jeremy Christian and Adam Purinton into clearer perspective, and the public is reacting appropriately.