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RE: Dr. The Leaping Koala_ my journey on Steemit # 2_ My first Curation attempt...
This has an impressive number of upvotes, given the reward payout size.
I bet this post would make the "daily most under-rewarded posts" list, the Daily Tribune, if they are still doing it.
Hi @lexiconical,
Thanks for your comment and upvote. I think the votes were all bots. I remember I used discord upvote site and few sec after I got so many little votes from so many.
But It would be great if more people get to know about this, because it will give many steemians some sort of exposure and interaction :)
"But It would be great if more people get to know about this,"
All you can do there is keep doing, it and keep trying to get more followers (so they will see it) by commenting on big articles!
Thanks @lexiconical for the advice. Sometimes steemit feels so unfriendly and harsh. But I need to remember your advice so I wouldn't give up soon.
"Sometimes steemit feels so unfriendly and harsh."
It's like the world that way. Beauty wrapped in an enigma wrapped in sorrow.
You can always DM me in the MSP Discord if you have any questions. I'll give you the straight answer I'd want to hear, even if it will probably make you hate me.
That's how I roll. As my blog tagline says:
"Wisdom And Knowledge Shall Be The Stability Of Thy Times."
-A top notch bible quote
My dear friend @lexiconical,
I will never hate you for telling me the truth.
Actually, I am glad you do. This way, I feel that I can trust you for not being corrupted and saying things to gain.
You advised me in another reply to follow @jerrybanfield upvotables
I have been doing it, but I was always ignored. I am not trying to attack Jerry, but I am not very sure if his upvotable posts are helping those who are at the bottom of the ladder.
Have you checked the comments @jerrybanfield upvotable 33?
I believe @verdanas comments are telling the truth as well. I have been feeling this for a while now.
Now do you think if I write a post regarding this issue, I would survive in steemit?
I don't think so.
I will check those comments and get back to you.
I will say this though:
"Now do you think if I write a post regarding this issue, I would survive in steemit?"
Without even knowing the issue, I can say, yes, you would. It might even be very popular as Jerry has some haters. Jerry would never flag or attack you, he'd probably come apologize.
I used to be afraid of writing any post I thought would be controversial. Later, I realized flagging a minnow to death for a post like that only makes the post look even more correct, and is likely to lead to other whales over-compensating and voting that minnow back up.
The worst case is very unlikely.
More to come.
Thanks for your reply. I look forward to hearing back from you :)
Only read about 10 of them so far, but this is what verdana's argument boils down to:
"That's nice but here this is not fair to others. Please don't take advantage of your connections. "
He is then correct rebutted:
"I would argue that Steemit is all about connections."
Much like life also is.
Furthermore, I think verdanas is correct here:
"Jerry this is out of control. I think you can't handle so much work. It's to much for one person. You can't trust upvotes cuz they are not balanced. You won't even notice bottom posts with 0 worth upvotes."
Yeah, there's only so much Jerry can do. He posts a lot, goes to AA everyday, has kids and dogs, etc. Still posts 3-4 times a day, with videos and transcripts.
Curation is very hard work. Digging up obscure posts is harder. Jerry runs mostly on submissions. I have not been watching the submissions, so I have no idea if he is picking good ones. I only meant to highlight his post format as another example of curation projects that are making steady rewards.
Perhaps you can do better than him.
What type of post would you want to write regarding this issue? There's almost always a way to post something diplomatically. I have gone through many draft revisions, sometimes 6-7, before posting things that started as angry rants and became sober appeals to common sense and logic.
I'd be happy to help you edit.
Thank you very much. I would love your help editing my post for sure.
I will work on it to make it as diplomatic as possible of course. Attacking people just because I was ignored is childish and sad. I would like to think I am beyond that at this stage.
The points I would like to highlight in the post are similar to what @verdanas has mentioned.
1- Connections are important, but we shouldn't abuse them. (you will find that said so many times, yet still happens)
2- Thanking Jerry for trying to help, but also suggesting that if he is too busy to do a fair judgment, then there are ways to combat that
~ Making upvotable as weekly posts or even monthly.
~ Asking for only a certain number of posts to be submitted to each upvotable episode.
~ People who have been recommended or posted in a previous upvotable are not allowed to recommend or be recommended again so soon (lets say they can cycle back every 10 upvotable posts or so)
~ Instead of writing the upvotable posts and getting overwhelmed by the amount of recommendations he has to read, he can simply sponsor one, two or more curation posts made by other growing authors. This way he can help others to gain money and fame as well as increase the outreach and number of people to be acknowledged for their hard work on steemit. All the while he is still helping steemit and steemians (if that is the intention)
Jerry is human after all. These upvotable episodes give him more money and fame on top of what he has. If he really desires to help with that, it would be great if he gives it more attention and efforts. or decline the rewards it makes. Otherwise, it looks like he is one of those who wants to gain by helping specific people that help him grow.
Again, I am not attacking him and maybe I do sound jealous of him. But he is doing too many things that he doesn't have time to do, which makes him the center of attention but he is not really benefiting many people who are obscured by him and other veteran steemians.
Jerry himself wrote about the top authors on steemit and how they are making more money than him. Does he see it as a competition of becoming a top author? of collecting more money and fame? or of growing while helping others?
Those are questions only Jerry can answer. But we certainly have the right to question anyone who is claiming to want to help, if they are not doing a fair job.
Hope to hear your comments.
Thanks again for engaging with me in this discussion :D
"Thanking Jerry for trying to help, but also suggesting that if he is too busy to do a fair judgment, then there are ways to combat that"
Who decides that a fair judgment is? What if Jerry thinks the posts meet an acceptable standard? It then becomes the proverbial "your" word against his.
This is why flagging for quality is also so subjective. Who decides that the right amount to reward something is? Will not my assessment of something's value be totally different from someone making 10% of my salary? Or 1000%?
Failing to resolve this paradox for myself, I basically vote on things based on how far I think they are from fair, quality based rewards. That means sometimes I don't vote on quality stuff that's already highly-rewarded, and other times I vote on some things that may not be super great but still deserve more than they are getting (for whatever reason, even "effort" sometimes).
Even if Jerry agrees the standard is not up to par, what should he do? What if he already is spending as much time on them as he can afford, should we try to convince him to forego his economic interest by continuing to post until he achieves some arbitrary bar of quality?
Steemit is supposed to solve this problem by letting the community design the rewards, but economic self-interest overrides most other concerns at a global level.
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" Making upvotable as weekly posts or even monthly."
This would reduce Jerry's payouts and reduce the amount of authors he can get exposure for, as well as how many rewards he can hand out to authors.
"Asking for only a certain number of posts to be submitted to each upvotable episode."
Who goes through the block-chain, counting the number of entries and determining which ones are allowed and which are not? Is this another thing Jerry has to hypothetically pay to outsource? Note that he already pays substantial amounts for transcription, formatting, and other work that allows him to post as often as he does.
His last post he paid $159 to a transcriptor/formatter/video editor. I don't think he even turned a profit on it, which may be true of more of his posts than you think. On our witness posts, he gives me the half of the listed payout in SBD, and he only keeps the SP, but he also pays at least one more guy to help format and video those posts. After he pays me and him, and eat the curation share, his share is far less than the statistics show.
If I were Jerry's business partner/lawyer, I would advise him to take none of these pieces of advice.
For advice to be followed, it must generally appear to the receiver to be in their own self-interest.
Also, you clearly have real voters too. There are actual commenters in your replies.
Yes, I am very happy to have real people following me and engaging my posts. It means a lot more than anything else.
It is true that I want to be successful by having more rewards and building my SP and reputation, but having real followers who are following me because they accept what I give not because I am rich and vice versa, is the ultimate success.
The success that is built on real value not money and greed.
I hope to be able to give them back more value in knowledge and in money eventually.