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RE: Announcing the Curangel Project - Curation Serving Everyone

in #curangel5 years ago

So it's a bitbot, where you pay money to buy upvotes.
Why is this featured? To notify everybody to get their downvotes ready to combat this new abuse of the reward pool? Those who pay, get upvotes, and those who don't, don't?

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Where the f*** did you read that anyone pays us for votes?

The service is upvotes. The recipients are those who sent you money.
No?

No. No one sends curangel money to upvote their posts. Curangel curators choose posts to upvote. Curation rewards are split between curators and delegators.

"Curangel curators choose posts to upvote."
That's how I do things, too. Isn't that how almost everybody does things, and isn't that how the blockchain is intended to be used?
So.... if curangel is just another account, upvoting posts exactly the same way everybody else is, why is this post featured?
I'm honestly trying to figure this out. I've never used or looked into bid bots or vote buying. I'm a simple content-creator here. From my perspective I can't understand what makes this curangel account special, worthy of having their intro post featured, worthy of already loaning half a million STEEM to, worthy of all the praise and fanfare.

There are many stakeholders out there who simply have no time to curate themselves. They can choose to autovote accounts without ever checking the quality of those posts and trusting authors being consistent with the post quality they produce and probably also means that many accounts who have not established themselves yet go unnoticed, they can delegate to bidbot services that I truly hope will die soon, they can just delegate to curation projects without any return or they can now delegate to a project like this and have a percentage of return from delegating.

Curangel rewards authors with delegated stake votes, it rewards curators for finding posts and supporting quality content that they find manually and check for abuse, not excluding older or newer accounts, and it awards delegators.

Thanks for replying. Everything you're saying about curangel could also be said about me, or any other account here. I'm trying to find out what makes it different from every other account, why people just sent it half a million STEEM, and why this post got featured by Steemit.

You've told me that curangel is an account that will curate posts manually, upvoting posts that need more rewards, and downvoting posts that need less rewards. Like I said, that's how all curation is meant to be on the Steem blockchain. It's certainly how I've always done it, and how I plan to continue doing it. That's not a reason to feature a particular account's post, and not a reason for fanfare. That's how we should ALL be curating, right?

And you've also told me people can loan money (delegate STEEM) to curangel, increasing the size of its upvotes and downvotes. But people can loan money to me, or you, and increase the size of our upvotes and downvotes, too. What makes curangel different from every other account? Why did this post get featured, and why are people flocking to loan them money?

I'm not trolling you or anyone. I'm actually after these answers. Thanks.

Yes, in an ideal steem world everyone would curate themselves. That's not what's happening though. A lot of stakeholders have no interest in doing that, but still want to get a share of the reward pool, which is why they delegate to bid bots.
This project gives them an alternative. They give up a bit of the returns they could get in other ways, because others do the curation work for them, but they can be sure that their stake isn't used to upvote vote buyers and in this way maybe they hurt the platform less.

The difference between every other account is that - it's a service targeting those who want something back for their delegation. With the infrastructure behind it to do it in a big way.

It was featured by Steemit, because it's the first curation group sharing its rewards with the ones fueling it. Newsteem is all about reducing the domination of bid bots, and this project is a part of it.

420k of the delegations are my personal stake btw, and quite a bit of the rest comes from members of the group.

Delegations are not a loan. We don't use the stake for ourselves, as all rewards are paid out.

That was my last reply to you. If you still don't want to understand that's fine - there will always be "that one guy" I guess? Congratulations for being him!

No.
Again, where did you read anything about sending money to us? Maybe the "do not buy votes elsewhere" part? That could probably be misinterpreted, but only by a very sloppy reader imo...

@pharesim how i can join the site is not working ? i tried a lot

I had no problem logging in on https://curangel.com/.
If you're looking for a place to delegate that offers good returns on delegation + contributes to a growing STEEM price, then this is one of the better options right now imo.

The recipients are anyone who makes content that the curation team of @curangel likes. Maybe read the information at https://curangel.com to get a better understanding.

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