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Libernet. So Indie seems better as prefix.

Liberty/freedom in a political interpretation is not same meaning as independent. Indie is a recently adopted (slang) abbreviation for independent. I prefer to stray away from making political arguments in the marketing, because as Michael Jordan said, “White people buy basketball shoes also.”.

I can’t decide which one I prefer over the other. IndieNet (especially if we can get the indie.net domain) is very descriptive. And afaik, no one has really used the Indie brand name yet, other than the crowdfunding site Indiegogo. I think primarily because many people think of indie bands and not indie game developers and because they had no application of the term to something with significant economic ROI. Indie has been associated mostly with independent artists (a filipina mentioned indie movies on YouTube so apparently the term is getting around with the meaning associated with artists) and independent artists tend to not earn much money—the starving artist stereotype working menial jobs so they can support their creative passion. So how to monetize the term Indie (beyond Indiegogo’s crowdfunding) has presumably not been apparent to anyone yet. But we’re hoping to disintermediate the large corporations that rule the Internet and change the monetization model of the Internet from top-down to bottom-up.

OTOH, Peerfect is unique, original, and brandable. And it is also sort of descriptive in that peering makes it perfect. And it is one of the only misspellings I have every thought of that seems to work reasonably well, i.e. most people could spell it. I pronouce it peer-fect, which is somewhat unnatural to vocalize.

IndieNet could be shortened in the future to just Indie. Comparing the name Indie to Peerfect, the latter feels cheaper and less established. Ditto when comparing the domain names indie.com or indie.net to peerfect.com; the Indie domains are concise. One facet that slightly bothers me is the “die” in “indie”, but I may be overthinking since someone mentioned that it may not be obvious to most people.

Neither name connotates with technical. But that is what we need if we want to appeal to the masses.

DomainEstibot.com*Monthly SearchesAvg. CPCSiteprice.orgFreevaluator
indie.com$65,00091,760$0.52$5582$23,099
indie.net$430091,760$0.52$6051$11,541
peerfect.com$47056$0.11$1500$2309
uncensored.com$80,000204,600$0.36
coolpage.com$20001,240$1.61
hyper.net$8100
hyper.com$81,200
mesh.com$340,000
mesh.net$14,000
mesh.org$15,000
me.sh$640
mesh.us$4000
mesh.io$510

* One methodology for valuing domain names is the value of the keyword search traffic, but Estibot’s FAQ explains it incorporates a more complex analysis.

Name is in use and probably not for sale. Mesh.com is registered by Microsoft!


EDIT:

So as I understand it you're considering staying with Hypermesh for technology's name but looking for a brandable name of apps/sites galaxy which would be IndieNet or Peerfect? Your steemit post is quite unclear about that, looks like you're dropping Hypermesh.

I’m considering dropping Hypermesh. Too many names leads to confusion. However, it is possible to keep the IndieNet name for a set of applications of Hypermesh which fit that name, and retain Hypermesh (or just MESH) for the decentralized ledger and its general applications so as to not pigeonhole it to hippies artists. I’m also still contemplating the Hypernet name instead of Hypermesh (or just MESH) and it also matches better to IndieNet. I had registered hypernet.cc and hypernet.cloud as interim domains until obtaining hyper.net. I think I may prefer hyper.net to hyperme.sh for obvious linguistic reasons and the former describes a network and the latter a technology. MESH was our other potential choice for branding name that is both technical and applicable for the independence/peering concept wrapped into one, but mesh.com and mesh.co are registered to Microsoft so it’s not good for the mass market brand name unless we think we can go mainstream with mesh.net or mesh.org (presuming we could obtain one of those, but mesh.org is registered to the National Institutes of Health and mesh.net redirects to networking company) analogous to wikipedia.org going mainstream without a .com.

Oh I forgot to mention that since IndieNet doesn’t connote high-tech, I’m pondering that the tokens will be ‘cryptos’ with currency symbol ⚷ in commerce and the token ticker symbol for exchanges perhaps HNT or MSH. I’m thinking that is much more precise than ‘bits’ or ‘bitcoins’. What we hold when we hold tokens, are cryptographic keys.

Either way, between IndieNet and Peerfect I'd go for Indie.net, which is more accurate and precise about what it is all about,

Well descriptive in terms of conveying independence and independent curators and content creators in one use of the technology. But Peerfect describes very well the Inverse Commons concept.

Also Peerfect in our intended meaning is more inclusive than IndieNet in its most widely understood meaning, as the latter implies it is only for independent artists. Yet Peerfect being an new term portmanteau can also imply other meanings which are negative such as peer pressure forcing people to be “perfect”.

"Indie" being from my point of view much more brandable to the masses than "Peer" which is afaik still a bit nerds-connoted for a website/app.

Good point, peer is definitely more technology focused. But that might be good, if the less technological alternative associates with a negative meme of the numerous failed sites that were going to monetize starving musicians.

Dunno what indie conveys as a feeling to english-speaking people, here it's a bit related to hippies in people's imaginary, but that's in tune with the time!

Indeed. Cringe. I’d prefer to influence the meaning of that nascent term to associate it more with technological independence or at least that the term is appropriate as a generalized appreviation for independent. We can influence language with great accomplishments, e.g. “google for it”.

The hippie starving artists meme actually makes ‘indie’ less descriptive for our case in that people might imagine we are promoting making donations to starving artists. Peerfect doesn’t have this problem and counteracts it being a more technological portmanteau as you pointed out.

Already told you I'm not a huge fan of plays in words, so Peerfect definitely has not my preference.

Indie is a play on words.

I agree that Uncensored is not enough "positive benefit" focused. Trove is cool but not very descriptive [of the project’s unique facets] I guess

Agreed.


EDIT#2:

The me.sh, mesh.com, mesh.net, and mesh.org domains are out-of-reach financially and for various reasons (e.g. mesh.org is registered to the National Institutes of Health).

So we can’t brand MESH as the name from launch.

Tentative decision:

  • hyperMESH or abbreviated ʰMESH is the decentralized ledger name, with commerce token name cryptos (symbol ⚷) with exchange symbol MSH.

  • We’ll try to obtain indie.net and/or indie.org for branding the indie related (web and mobile) applications of ʰMESH. Eventually this may be branded concisely as Indie and indie.com obtained.

  • The indie applications will state “powered by ʰMESH”. User signups are directed to hyperme.sh or the ʰMESH mobile app.

Thus, we avoid conflict with the HYPER game currency which looks dead, but will apparently be relaunched for another useless pump & dump. We want to emphasize MESH not ‘hyper-.’


EDIT#4:

Yeah I'm aware of that sorry that I wasn't clear, I'm just trying to put myself into kind of everybodies' shoes, I think indie.net immediately rings more bell about it being an independent network (Peerfect is more ambigious I guess?). Considering this, Peerfect might perhaps be less connoted, and thus we might be able to quicker influence people's point of view about it.

ʰMESH is going to have a wide array of (mobile and web) applications built on it.

So I am leaning towards Indie for the name of the videos and games hub site/app. And Peerfect for the wiki, blogging, and forums site/app!

If you're not too worried about having two brandings towards mass-adoption (which might be not so much of a trouble, given that everything would be specified as "powered by ʰMESH" consistency will be maintained while taking advantages of both names in their own field of action), that naming partition really sounds good to me indeed!!

The ecosystem is going to build many apps on hyperMESH (aka ʰMESH), so there will be a proliferation of apps and names of apps regardless. That is the entire point. I don’t plan to turn the Internet into a funnel where the entire Internet becomes one website.

The real decision distills down to what is the natural demarcation for branding. And I think that indie video and games don’t belong together with peer perfecting wikis, blogs, and discussions.

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