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RE: Do you know what work inmates in the U.S. are doing? Do you know how extensive it has become? I want to give you an example.
imprisonment is by definition legal slavery.
imprisonmnet serves one function.
deterrance...the idea is to get the idea across that the prisoner should NOT do what he did to get in prison..again.
that's called punishment.
30 yrs at hard labor...is punishment.
if a prisoner is not responsive to punishment..
execute him...not for what he did...but for being the type of person that he is.
Actually BY DEFINITION it is not.
Imprisonment doesn't have to do ANYTHING with labor. It simply is removal from society, and restrictions.
Slavery is similar but it implies forced labor. Imprisonment does not have to have a labor component at all so BY DEFINITION it has nothing to do with slavery. Slavery can have something to do with imprisonment, but they are not synonymous.
I can find no definition for imprisonment that mentions labor, or slavery. They mention confinement, or to put into a prison.
And again... this still addresses nothing I wrote about in my post.
ahem..."involuntary servitude"...used in the sentence as the equivalent to slavery...?
servitude mean work?
Got a reading problem today? (we all have such days)
Where does it say anything about involuntary servitude in that?
you said imprisonment by definition is slavery. It is not BY DEFINITION.
Had you actually said Involuntary servitude you would be correct. That isn't what you said. Perhaps that is what you MEANT to say and you only typed imprisonment.
So so far... there is this. Plus you talking about what is constitutional. I never said it wasn't. Still has very little to do with my post. Not sure what your intentions are here other than perhaps not to admit you kind of derailed the topic and went off in a different direction. That is totally fine, but it actually is NOT what I wrote about in my blog post.
The labor is no longer hard. That type is still there. The labor has encompassed all fields now. Maybe go back and read my blog post.
Also no where in any of my blog posts on this subject have I indicated we should NOT have prisons. I've instead focused on corruption elements in it. How many of the slaves are such for "victimless" crimes with long prison sentences.
Plus, most of the labor is NOT HARD LABOR.
I understand the 13th amendment was worded the way it was so the hard labor was possible.
Without that all you have is true imprisonment, throw them in a hole, feed them, let them get some exercise and that is it. People decided that was inhumane and it keeps getting SOFTER and softer. In some cases it is more attractive than the world outside of prison depending upon a persons situation.
If we are going to have labor then it should be HARD LABOR and not the jobs that people who are not in prison would want to have. The jobs should not be attractive, and entertaining to the inmates.
This is what they are now, which I covered and showed proof of in my blog post, as well as previous ones.
If prison were HARD LABOR it might be a deterrent. Now it is just another form of outsourcing.