Do you want to play a game? Come play for a chance to win SBD! - Free giveaway #3

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Hi everybody,

Today we are putting up our third giveaway. You can see the second one here:

https://steemit.com/contest/@emble/do-you-want-to-play-a-game-come-play-for-a-chance-to-win-sbd-free-giveaway-2

Since there was not a winner for the second giveaway the rewards from that contest will carry over to this contest.

Today's contest starts with a story.

Three weary travelers made their way to the town inn after having traveled in the scorching heat for days. Jacob, a tall strapping young man in his twenties, extracted 3 loaves of bread from his rucksack. Joseph, a middle aged peddler, carried 2 loaves of bread among his wares. Their elderly companion Jonathan, eyed their bread hungrily. He had no food with him. Noticing his plight, both men agreed to split the 5 loaves evenly amongst the three of them. After heartily consuming their meal Jonathan rose and said - "My brothers, you have saved my life. I would like to pay you." He drew 5 golden coins from his pocket and placed them on the table. "Split these fairly between you", he said and disappeared.

Jacob and Joseph looked disbelievingly, at the fortune that had just befallen them. "How should we split the 5th coin?" asked Joseph. Assuming that they would each receive exactly half of the reward. There is no need to split the coin" Jacob responded. "I had 3 loaves of bread - so three coins belong to me. You contributed only 2 and you will fairly receive 2 of the gold coins." "I disagree," Joseph countered. "We split the loaves evenly so should we  split the money evenly - 50/50".

After arguing for a while, the pair agreed to go to the local judge that who famous for his wisdom.

What did the judge rule?

Here are the rules to enter the giveaway:

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  3. The first correct answer will receive 50% of the post's final payout. 
  4.  The reward will be paid 7 days later when the post pays out. If there is no winner until July 10 11:59 EST, the rewards will carry over to the next contest.

Thanks to @jrcornel for sponsoring today's giveaway

Update: Answer and winners were announced in this post: https://steemit.com/contest/@emble/answer-and-winners-for-do-you-want-to-play-a-game-come-play-for-a-chance-to-win-sbd-free-giveaway-3

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the question has been answered for 1400 years :p
http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentynine.htm

Mmm, both of them gave Jonathan the same proportion of their bread 0.33 each. So they should split the money evenly 50/50.

EDIT: NO, i was wrong. They have 5 loaves and they were 3. So thats 1.666667 each.

Jacob had 3. So 3-1.666667 = 1.333333. That's he's input.
Joseph had 2. So 2-1.666667= 0.333333. That's he's input.

1.333333+0.333333= 1.666666

So, Jacob propotion is 1.333333/1.666667 = 0.79999964. He should get 3.9999982 coins (0.799999645)
And Joseph's is 0.333333/1.666667 = 0.19999976. He sould get 0.9999988 coins (0.19999976
5)

And where should the rest go?

3.9999982
+0.9999988
=4.999997 on my calculator

Use 2 digits and you get 5. The thing is 1/3 is not exactly. 0.33. But thats the answer and the result is 5.

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judges don't work for free?

As there were 5 loaves of bread, we have 1 and 2/3 (or 5/3) of loaf per person. Jacob and Joseph had got their own parts of loaves back, so Jacob contributed 1 and 1/3 (or 4/3)of loaf and Joseph contributed 1/3 of loaf to Jonathan. In sum, the Jacob's part is 4/3 divided by 5/3 = 80%, which equals 4 coins.

I believe the judge would say cut it in half. (fun fact in the late BC and early AD if you had a half silver bronze or gold piece you could break it in half to pay the proper price). actually, this corse of action would be common sense at the time. I learned this in my freshman world history. :) there was no need for the judge but since they went to the judge then he could have taken it both are very possible to happen.

There are many variables in this story that have yet to be mentioned. For example would the judge do work without collecting a fee? It says that the men extracted certain quantities of bread from their rucksacks, but the story never mentioned original ownership rights of the bread. It merely said that two of the individuals were carrying it. Are all five of the golden coins of equal weight and value? Are there relational aspects that we should consider? If we are to ignore all these, and merely go on the basis of contributor ownership then Jacob should receive 4 coins, and Joseph should receive 1 coin.

5 loaves need to be split into 3 pieces each
Therefore= 15 pieces

Jacob's contribution = 9 pieces
Jacob ate = 5 pieces
Jacob gave the group = 4 pieces

Joseph's contribution = 6 pieces
Joseph ate = 5 pieces
Joseph gave the group = 1 piece

Jacob contributed 4 times as much as Joseph, so to be fairly rewarded he should receive 4 times as much of the coins.

Jacob gets 4, Joseph gets 1.
This is based on Jacob supplying 4/5 of the bread that Jonathon ate. If they each ate 1.6666 loaves of bread that means that Jacob contributed 4/5 of the bread that Jonathon ate and Joseph contributed 1/5. Hence, 4 coins for Jacob, 1 coin for Joseph.
At least that is how my ADHD brain sees it.

:and it was my first guess. Sorry petisoparado and I showed my reasoning
utfull. LOL...fun puzzle emble.

:) .... Yeah petisoparado did an extensive one :)

petisoparado did a wrong one... It's not the right answer

Well ! let us leave the decision for the winner to @emble .. his contest, his decision :)

Yeah, I will. Just saying it's not 100% right :P

Well I don't know, but I guess judge took the 5th coin and kept it to himself as a payment for the work

hail Eris. hail discordia.

Jacob - 4 coins. Since he first divided the bread into three man = 3 coins. And then, when they shared the bread of Joseph and Jacob, again section 3 of the bread of Jacob into three parts each = +1 gold. But Joseph received two loaves 1/3=2/3 and 1/3 of the bread of Jacob, which he gave to Jonathan=+1 gold

It was just after 1933 so the judge confiscated all the coins for the government

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