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RE: THE FLAT EARTH CON – BOLLOCKS 101
Thanks for that - I'll check it all out - I fully agree that NASA are lying about almost everything, but this flat earth thing, looks like a disinformation campaign to me...
Now I'm not trying to be negative here but that first video is just two guys rabbiting on and chewing the shit for 1:48 - did you really listen to all that?
If the earth is flat wouldn't cats knock everything off the edge lol ;)
Actually I did listen to the Grupp interview above some time back, but not recently. If you want really concentrated analysis on various flat earth proofs, there are some better videos for this. I chose the video above specifically because then you get to know what kind of person Grupp is and how intelligent he is. You can see quickly that he's no crackpot and he's no disinformation agent. He's just driven to check the empirical evidence for all of it. I respect this fully with Grupp.
If you want proofs quickly then this video is probably the better one:
Yes this video and Dave Murphy does very good explanation of general idea, so you have heard it and considered it, no need for me to bother you about it then really. that is all I want people to do is take a look into it, I don't know for sure, I feel like I do but I do not. (Thanks for the upvotes, and please no more , spread them around) I appreciate your thoughts, its fun discussing this stuff.
Here's more extreme BS from the NASholes:
Magical rover cleanings and incredible rover lifespans:
The blatant recoloring of Mars images:
Looks the same as Devon Island, Canada.. hmm, what a coincidence:
A much longer, detailed video on all the NASA Mars rover BS:
Yeah, I trust these guys fully.. (facepalm)
But that is the thing - the fact that NASA are lying about all this stuff has nothing to do with flat earth.
Not true. There is absolutely relevance to their fakery. It means that you can't trust one of the key organizations that supposedly gives you "real" evidence of a round Earth.
Of course it doesn't follow that the Earth is flat automatically because these pricks are fraudulent, but it certainly makes all their Earth model stories incredibly suspect. This includes all their supposed photos of Earth from space which are all photoshopped... and very provably photoshopped I might add.
This would all be so easy to prove - just film from a plane flying over the edge of the dinner plate, then drop under the dinner plate and film the underneath
Atomic bombs are fake too. But that doesn't make the earth flat...
Feel free to hire a plane to fly across Antarctica. Just get some damn good insurance and some serious winter survival gear.. ;-)
It's not me who has something to prove...
Are you implying me? I'm not a flat Earther.. I am Earth model agnostic. ;-) My only point is that I've invested a lot of time in actually listening to and thinking about all the arguments that are given by the flat Earthers. This includes real empirical evidence from on the ground experimentation. There is nothing that proves it's round from this - seriously nothing. This means we are trusting the NASholes on their model. I'm not comfortable with that either.
I have simply posted very compelling anecdotal evidence that I think is worth thinking about as well. What that leaves us with however is not proof, but only helps clarify some of the evidence available on the opposite side of the fence from where you are sitting at this point. We both already know the evidence from the round model perspective anyway.
@newsandviews YUP.
You also might like the Popular Science article on Auguste Piccard and what he saw from the edge of space. Here's a video on it:
Again, I'm not sold one direction or the other at this point, but this is another really interesting story that never gets talked about. Individually, these things don't "prove" anything, but collectively they paint a very interesting picture that we should be paying attention to.
So are you unsure if you are a flat earther? -I'm not sure if it's necessary to be agnostic about this, it's not that confusing really...
No, I'm Earth model agnostic, not Earth model confused. It could be the Earth is even way bigger than we are told. It could be that the Earth is a hyper dimensional space. It could be a number of things. The point still is, there are no empirical tests that I have seen done from the surface of the Earth that can prove it's round. No engineering takes into account in their designs that it's round (e.g. tunnels, altimeters, etc.) Even with air refraction, we can see far further than the curvature would ever allow. Then there's other BS given to us to "indicate" a globe model, like aluminum satellites that survive 4,000+ F in the Thermosphere? Liquid fuel engines give thrust without surrounding air pressure? There are a lot of questions, questions, questions. If you can already answer all these open questions with clear proofs then I'll believe whatever model that these proofs point to. It could be shaped like a f'n bunny rabbit for all I care. This is called the scientific method. You follow where the provable evidence leads you, and not what you would like it to be or already assume it to be.
Doesn't flying all the way around the globe in a plane count? (yes I looked out the window!)
I'm not looking for interesting stories - just PROOF - which for obvious reasons has never been filmed...
LOL, I copy pasted wrong video lololollo. sorry about that , you are right, waste of time.