Why there is simply no NWO New World Order that is controlling world destiny . . .

in #conspiracy8 years ago

Apologies; Yes this is a long post but it basically summarizes one hundred years of world history,so it is probably fairly short : )

Firstly the idea of a NWO =New World Order is simply implausible. Things happen for strange reasons, our planet now has 7 billion people, some three billion souls live quite advanced lives using technology and communications. So yes while these are those who believe our banks are controlled by virtually one super bank or certain races control the media etc. To suggest this is to some grand design plan is ridiculous . . .

Bad **it happens and people need someone to blame it is psychology not reality, crazy **it happens and it is a conspiracy. Recently a very famous sports person died in an alleged accident involving a boat, I say alleged because who can say what ? Apparently this man was very talented but it seems not famous enough to become subject to a conspiracy theory. Generally you cannot involve figures in a conspiracy unless they are famous because the majority of people will just fail to pay any attention to the accusations.

So let us imagine such an NWO actually existed, this group would have to be large enough to control and supervise dozens of different departments simultaneously in over a dozen nations. This group would need at a minimum hundreds if not thousands of members, keeping secrets in such large groups is virtually impractical. Even if such a NWO really did exist they would have the power to kill anyone who was likely to reveal them, this would mean anyone with any way to discover them would be dead even if they got close. This would make the perfect suicide plan, simply no one could ever offer proof ! ! !

Thus it is impractical to ever offer any suggestion of any actual NWO let us focus instead on a more likely set of events. World War One ran from 1914 till 1918, However unlike the rest of the World the United States sat out WWI until they could capitalize and profit, so while the entire World saw good reasons to fight America waited till 1917. World War II started in 1939, America did not enter WWII until 1942 (Dec 07,1941) then conveniently waited till Russia had destroyed the German armies en-mass. America pledged to fight the Japanese but reality was 75 % of effort went toward the European theater since that is where the profit lay for the United States.

While the Unites States says it sent billions of dollars in aid to Britain and England and this is true what America never reports is that all of that was ultimately paid for since America simply poached British overseas possessions that England could no longer use nor protect. This is why the United States has lots of convenient little places around the world today, they got them from the British after WWII, but of course America like to say " we the World's Policeman " and no one helps us . . .

America dragged its allies into Korea and Vietnam etc. The United States actually said in a diplomatic meeting prior to the Gulf War they would not get involved in local affairs if Iraq had interests with its neighbors. Saddam Hussein took the leap and America used its United Nations to lead the coalition of the willing. Remember the United Nations has no money, so the UN is financially (owned) supported by rich countries. When someone is paying your rent and expenses it means you will simply do what they want, thus the United Nations is bought and paid for. . . Since America had profited so well from the Cold War United States industry told their lobbyists to tell their subcontractors to arrange new profit markets.

Lobbyists simply told the minders of the sub-contractors (Professional Politicians) to upmarket the threat of terrorism. After the success of leading the world in the First Gulf War the United States would get to lead another profitable industrial money maker. The United States President ensured there would be no issues about international crimes by ensuring laws were changed to exclude America from international law. Thus senior policy makers sent the United States to war while they created private companies to rebuild this destruction afterwards at American tax payers expense.

When most countries realized the United States could not be trusted they refused to get involved in this American money making smoke and mirrors scheme. Once America was committed the United States government needed fear to try and sell this intervention. Thus when the United States reported WMD ( Weapons of Mass Destruction) most countries simply realised this threat was not realistic and America was forced into its own little war for a dozen years that bankrupted the most economic nation on Earth.

Once American interests destroyed the local power structures this vacuum was ripe for radical groups, these groups thrived on United States policy and quickly spread worldwide including to domestic America. While the United States interests were served by these terrorists attacking foreign nations domestic terrorism was never part of the American isolationist plan.

Today the United States has created a whole mess for the entire world, today millions of refugees are suffering due to American financial interests with of course the United States saying " not our problem ". Simply put the global individualists in the pursuit of profit have created a world of radial unstable situations, so while you could suggest this is part of the plan of the NWO. The evidence does not suggest in any way such a NWO group exists this is in direct contrast to any non American public record that supports all of the above common knowledge.

So today's crazy world was simply the result of very wealthy American industrialists trying to find new ways to increase profits by manipulating events like they did with WWI, WWII, the Cold War etc. etc. This time the modern world realised The United States is not part of the solution but is actually part of the problem.

Just like the Vatican abandoning Christianity recruiting after thousands of scandals involving priests and little boys making the business decision to move into Spanish South America so society forgets these deviants. The United States plan is to try isolationism and protect itself from the radial groups it helped motivate until things stabilize and society forgets the latest American export, Global Terrorism . . .

So it is more accurate that there is no NWO, but simply the passing of an Old World Order and no clear indications of how things will be played out. Today America is a part of the international community and is already starting to be left behind by other many other nations, to suggest the way forward for the United States is more isolationism will set America back decades. Simply if in today's fast paced world if America chooses to hide in shame behind a wall the next time it peeks out at the real world it will literally be a third world nation ! ! !

This is the internet so it would be just a matter of effort to find thousands of references to support the above assertions but some fanatics will choose to just not believe even if they were to see credible evidence and other fanatics will simply refuse to try and accept an opposing viewpoint . . .

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Is that a yes or a no?

There are far to many different factors moving in unknown unpredictable directions for it to be some reliable grand plan. Consider the globe, Earth was called gondwanaland; over time it broke apart via plate tectonics. Of interest was the man who suggested plate tectonics was publicly destroyed by his scientific peers. Only after his death in disgrace was his opinions proven correct ! ! !

We are simply seeing a fracturing of the existing established social order, now that people have no money, no trust, no respect and no hope of progress things will only get worse before they start to get better. Like the stock market, it falls, falls some more; falls some more till it eventually stabilizes. Over time people accept the new status quo and then slow recovery begins, people forget the bad past and focus on new progress.

We had some good times, now we have fallen and we must accept the new status quo of bad times before public confidence is strong enough to begin the rebuilding. However when hope has been destroyed by lies and scandals without trust things cannot begin to progress again.

The United States was trying to create a new common enemy to captivate the world into a compliant cohesive force and messed it all up, now we must all live with the consequences of the unlawful unconscionable greed of a thousand rich Americans . . .

My apologies, if you are seeking a yes or no; the answer is " no " . . .

gotcha.
I was in the military for ten years.
I watch with horror how STUPID the gubberment is.
When I can't avoid it I'm forced to deal with State or Officials
I watch with horror how STUPID the gubberment is.
Believing in a NWO is not logical based upon the evidence.

Truly and seriously i truly must think if anyone was really trying to secretly take over the world and create a new world order you would have to think they would try and use people who are actually smarter than Walmart employees . . .

This is not meant to be nasty to Walmart employees but rather to say Walmart tends to seek employees who are prepared to work for slightly less than minimum wage so they can post more profits to shareholders. Truly would you invest in years of secret planning only to have the three stooges come along and mess it up.

Maybe that is part of the plan that no one would suspect these morons with public profiles to be capable of doing something sneaky like that, but I tend to think if these vermin had any skills they would be house painters or bank tellers or some other super advanced skill base rather than that of a professional politician ! ! !

It is important to note that there are plenty of ties with non-American bankers also colluding and controlling the United State. I agree with what you described the U.S. as doing and even that wealthy U.S. Industrialists were involved. Yet in both WW I and II there were bankers that profited from funding both sides of the war. Some of those were from the U.S., others were from Europe. The Rothschild family and the families that have merged with then via marriage is still immensely influential and has been so longer than any living industrialist has been alive and of age to actually do any of these things. It was a Rothschild that said "I care not who makes the laws, as long as I control the money" and he was no stupid person for saying this. If you look into the concept of the NWO it is not some Illuminati like movement it seems to consist more of the concept of these people all causing problems and profiting from them colluding with each other to some degree. So rather than being some mysterious cabal it is more like a cartel of people operating to their mutual benefit. At this point they profit whether the NWO happens or not. A ton of Hegelian dialectic is at work all over the place. Induce fear to convince people to do things they would not normally agree to. Fictitious Example: Do you have a poison antidote in massive quantities that no one is buying? Hegelian Dialectic would recommend arranging for mass poisoning, as then people would buy your antidote. However, the Hegelian Dialectic seems to be applied more to convincing people to accept or even demand the passage of certain laws out of fear and desperation that they would not normally even have considered passing. I don't know about you, but keeping the world in a perpetual state of fear seems to be the primary job of the mainstream media these days.

It would be easy being in the media today; something I could never do. Firstly the primary requirement is you must have the body of a model. Next is to be able to say anything with a straight face, it would be so kool . . .

Take press release or speech transcript, cut and paste news content; now that sounds difficult (NOT). Today only three things are sold, FEAR, PROPAGANDA and MARKETING; real information tends to be difficult and boring. Today people live in a fast paced world the must get the entire message in 30 seconds or you have lost them, so the only way to capitalize on this is to simply repeat the same lie many many times over and over again in little 30 second messages ! ! !

Like when you go to the shop and they replay the same logo slogan over and over again, and as the man said " You cannot handle the truth ! ! ! " thus those professional politicians working for welfare seek to not reveal truths. After all in today's modern world an politician knows every word they speak is recorded forever thus something said in 2014 could come back in 2018 and be misquoted; thus politicians say nothing except ' noise ' . . .

Easy way to interpret politicians; if their mouth is open they are lying, if they are not breathing then they are honest...

You've made a good point in one of your responses; there are too many factors.

Competing influences such as leftism, globalism, and islam (these are just some of the larger ideologies, not all of the competing influences AND there are competing influences within the spheres of these movements such as the shia-sunni schism ), and all hostile to liberty and free market ideology (anarchy and minarchy).

The competing influences can and will ally at convenience. Leftism and islam is a fairly powerful alliance that can be seen in one example in floding Europe with young male "refuggees". Globalism and islam can seen in Bush's ties with the House of Saud AND in the Corker deal with Iran. Globalism and leftism can been seen in such legislation as TPP.

And those are ideological factors. Corruption and racism are just two facets of human weakness that interplay with ideological factors. H. Clinton is probably more of a corruptocrat than a leftist or a globalist, even if her political heritage has been leftist. Laziness and cowardice infect each one of us to some level.

As humans, we want there to be one primary factor, we want there to be good vs. evil. We don't want to make complicated analyses, especially when outcomes could be limited and accurate data is hard to pull from the web of lies we receive. People also don't want to be responsible for the very tough personal actions they would have to take after reaching an analysis.

Thus you have some people that blame everything on the NWO, some on the Jews, some on islam, some on the illegals, etc etc. "IF we just get rid of this one set of bad guys, that will solve all our problems". Binary thinking is one of the dooms of critical thinking. In addition, we want someone else to take action, and then we can blame them when their actions on our behalf don't have any effective result, as in the Drug War.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. That means sniffing out and then snuffing out enemies on an individual level. The Muslim that builds bombs is an enemy, but not every Muslim in Detroit is one. The illegal who accepts welfare benefits and drives drunk is an enemy, but not the illegal that has built a home and values American ideals over his native land is not. It takes effort and judgement and sifting out good data from bad data to make these calls. It is not a sit back on the couch and hope for the best process.

Wow, you've given me enough thought material for a post! Thanks!

I have followed some of your other posts so I will hunt out this new post lol : )

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Great post. Profits of world domination..... Unbelievable that we still operate this way in the age of information and possibilities. It is truly disappointing to see how far our species has gone to perfect control and mass victimization instead of using our resources to SOLVE our COMMON Challenges.

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