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RE: Not every perceived solution in code is exclusively a solution... sometimes they introduce new problems

in #codeislaw7 years ago

but it wouldn't help. If we would stop to vote their posts/comments how it would stop them from doing this?

and actually I don't know who does that How can I stop to support somebody if I don't know how those guys.

BTW, how this problem was solved before HF19? Maybe can reuse this now? at least partially.

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but it wouldn't help. If we would stop to vote their posts/comments how it would stop them from doing this?

I didn't say it would. They could keep doing it. Yet they will only be working with themselves. The problem is that some of these people receive support from others.

We've had whales do things like this in the past, and people would still support them hoping they would get some high paying vote from the whale. Removing support also means we should stop prostituting ourselves to those we believe are not acting in the best interest of the steem blockchain.

ok, I heard you.

What if... after somebody put his own upvote, his post would be less visible... say self upvote would be also self flagging for the post or comment on amount of his vote

All these things will only punish the average person. These things are easy to circumvent simply by having more than one account and the people that tend to do the most shady stuff here do have multiple accounts.

BTW, how this problem was solved before HF19? Maybe can reuse this now?

It was not solved. Power was further consolidated in the top end due to the exponential curve. So there were people doing this but they were much smaller in number. HF19 made the curve linear and people who couldn't really do that much before suddenly could so we had more people doing it now.

and actually I don't know who does that How can I stop to support somebody if I don't know how those guys.

Decide what you think would harm the platform and just unfollow, stop voting for those that you see doing it. Decide what works for you and do that.

I don't know who does that.

You should publish a list... or create a shame wall

I intentionally try not to name names. Sometimes people change. Sometimes they know I am talking about them and they make a change and no one need know. I don't really care if people were doing something negative as long as they learn and stop doing it in the future.

people who do that could always pretend that they have never seen your post and continue...

Unfortunately... because nearest huge payout without any efforts are always better than to put a lot of efforts in a community for probably bigger payouts on a future.

heh.... looks like whale police with downvoting those posts would help

Sometimes it was a WHALE I was talking about. ;) That I think may have improved and I did change some whale minds in the past. It's not always easy, and I don't usually succeed... yet it is still worth trying as far as I'm concerned.

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