China's Population Crisis / 中国的人口问题

in #cn8 years ago

A relatively well known fact is that China has the largest population in the world. This has been of great concern to our government for many years now as there will reach a point where the elderly will almost equal the number of people in employment. Some experts say as soon as 2040. That’s a disconcerting prospect for the future.  

中国拥有世界上最多的人口, 这是一个众所周知的事实。中国政府多年来一直很关注这个问题,唯恐不久的将来我们的老年人口会上升到与就业人口一样。一些专家评论,也许2040年这个可怕的预言就会实现,那可不是一个乐观的前景。 

Currently, China’s GDP is fast catching up to the USA’s and looking very like to surpass it very soon. However, could the demographic problems looming on the horizon adversely affect this seemingly inevitable outcome? What has China done about this thus far and what further action could they take it the future? 

目前,中国国内生产总值快速跟上美国,相信不久就能超越它。然而,这个隐约可见的人口问题会影响这个看似必然的结果吗?那么中国迄今为止采取了什么行动呢?下一步又该如何呢?


China’s Fight against the Clock / 中国必须争分夺秒 

The problems outlined above are already beginning to surface for the Chinese government to try and solve. For example, last year it was announced that the Chinese army may have to reduce its number by up to 300,000. Though no conclusive reason was given by the Chinese authorities, this was widely believed to be because of labour shortages already affecting certain parts of China.   

上述问题已经开始逐渐浮出水面,等待着中国政府去解决。例如 ,去年中国宣布军队将减少30万人数,虽然政府没有给出明确的原因,这被普遍认为是由于中国某些地区劳动力短缺所致。 

Longer term economic forecasts paint a picture of uncertainty as to how China will deal with this. The elderly will need people to attend to them on a daily basis, sometimes requiring round-the-clock care given their differing individual needs. If the statistical analysis is correct, how will the spread of labour be apportioned accordingly with so few eligible workers available? It is a worrying dilemma, to say the least. 

经济预言家对中国将如何处理这个问题也抱着很大疑问与不确定性。老年人将需要人每天照顾,根据个人不同身体状况有时候甚至需要每小时的护理。如果这个统计分析是正确的话,我们将如何按比例分配劳动力呢?这可真是一个令人担忧的问题。 


What Has Been Done About It So Far? / 迄今为止所采取的行动是什么? 

Of course, the most famous “one child policy” rule introduced in 1978 to 1980 was a quick fix for our increasing Chinese population. This I feel, while a good idea at the time, produced a double edged sword. On the one hand, you had a solution for kerbing population growth but also created a side effect  of having fewer younger generation Chinese who would be needed to assist with the elderly as well as sustain growth in GDP to progress China. 

众所周知,在1978年至1980年推出的“独生子女政策”是政府为了解决中国人口问题所采取的快速解决方案。我个人觉得,这虽然在当时看来是个好主意,但同时也制造了一把双刃剑。一方面确实解决了人口增长问题,但也导致了更少的年轻人来照顾有需要的老年人以及更少劳动力来推动中国GDP的增长。 

This was overturned in 2015 when the “two child policy” was phased in to try to bring balance to both the population and demographic concerns, but one must ask, is this too little too late? When the one child policy was in place, the overwhelming majority of children born were boys. This imbalance in gender also raises future demographic issues for families across China.   

“独生子女政策”在2015年被新的“两孩政策”取代了,用以平衡人口问题。可是,这已经太晚了吗?当实行“独生子女政策”的时期,出生的绝大多数是男孩。这种性别数量不平衡也将影响中国的家庭生育计划。 


Difficult Choices Ahead / 艰难的选择 

Though living in London, my entire family is based in China so this is as much a concern for me as it is for millions of other Chinese out there. The way I see it, there is no avoiding a conflict of interests and one solution will cause another problem.  

虽然我生活在伦敦,但家人都在国内,所以我和数百万国人一样都很关注这个问题。在我看来,是没有任何政策可以完全避免冲突,一个解决方案会导致另一个新问题的产生。 

Maybe our government will keep production levels and GDP running at the current rate of growth while attempting to somehow budget for elderly care. Or possibly slow the rate of economic growth down and redistribute its wealth to provide adequate support for its people. Unfortunately, it seems like there just has to be a trade off somewhere. 

也许我们的政府将保持现有生产力水平和目前国民生产总值的增长速度,并拨款支援养老服务。又或者政府决定减缓经济增速和为支持个人而重新分配财富资源。遗憾地说,无论政府采取什么措施,都需要权衡利弊,得失取舍。 


These are just my opinions on how I see the matter from a personal point of view. I feel like it is a ticking time bomb ready to go off in the next few years unless some drastic action is taken soon. I would be happy to hear your thoughts on this sensitive subject?     

以上只是我对这个问题的个人看法。我觉得这像一个定时炸弹在未来几年随时会引爆,除非政府采取及时有效措施。欢迎大家也来说说你们的看法。    


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Well, Japan is going through somethingh similar - only they are about a decade ahead of China in the population reduction experiment.

Absolute population in Japan started to fall in 2010. One side effect of a smaller population is that unemployment there is very low - about 3.7%. However, debt is huge because they are borrowing to fund their oldies. They are trying to get round it by monetising the debt - the Bank of Japan is doing QE and then buying govt bonds. Once the BoJ owns all the debt, they can eventually cancel it.

Great breakdown of Japans solution, aenor. They have been implementing QE for a while now. Given the size increase of population in China as opposed to Japan, the costs of required borrowing would be many times higher therefore would it be even possible to start a workable plan similar to that for China?

Maybe the problem is the solution. What the world needs most is wisdom, the very thing the elderly can offer. My best friend growing up had his grandmother living with him. I believe she was the best thing he had. She offered balance, culture, an amazing garden and child care. Let us take in our elders, sacrifice a little and care for them at home.

It used to be that one spouse stayed home and another worked during most of our world's history. The one at home did gardening, animal and chicken care, and caring for the children and elderly. Now technical jobs can still be done at home. Woman as multitaskers are often better at business, including home business. This model may offer an ideal way to care for our elderly.

Having elderly at home can be an economic advantage too. Especially when they do home business, care for the home, garden and teach good respect and values to their grandchildren. Taking care of those who raised us gives us and our children opportunies to learn compassion, service, patience and respect, and prepares us for old age.

Very well thought out and structured out comment. Education and the Internet may end up being China's greatest ally in solving this problem. Many families adopting your conceptualisation of a nuclear family would be highly beneficial for the looming demographic time bomb. But because China is still a developing nation, many Chinese labourers depend on physical work to support their family. This may very well mean travelling to other locations to work thus still requiring a carer for the elderly at home if no one else is available.

Plus the difficulties of Chinese men to find a bride these days given the balance of gender in our society just compounds this problem. So many factors to consider, lol. I'm just glad I'm not the one making all those decisions! Imagine the political and social pressures!

Awesome comment, treeleaves. Many thanks!

The world will be very different in 2030-40... robots, advanced healthcare possibilities - I think some of the problems anticipated will never come to pass.

interesting you mention AI and robots. China is about to surpass Japan in Robots and AI development. Mostly due to buying European (German) technology. However I dont believe AI will save China from this problem. Elderly care is a big issue all over the world. In China its really new idea to have to think about who will take care of the elderly.

In so many ways, positive ways, China is the America of 1950's, which pisses of America cause China is leading the way in small businesses and being an entrepreneur. Being a little guy in USA trying to make a life is thousand times more difficult today than it is in China. As long as america war machine stays strong they will always be on top but politically and socially China is very non violent and deserves the win in those merits. But we are all animals and dog eat dog.

What a top class comment, solarguy. You're totally right about China's technological advances given mass production output and the economies of scale we have been enjoying for many years now. But yes, the bigger picture of how the tech will assist with the elderly is an unknown. We can only speculate as to what the outcome will be, but without certainty.

Physical assistance for the elderly will still require humans unless androids are created. I'm pretty certain that won't be by 2040. Many questions, many theories, but ultimately leading to only guesses for now.

Also, I see the future race between the US and China for supremacy being a very close two-horse race, but this cloud hanging over China could be a great influential factor as to who eventually wins. It'll be an interesting watch from our point of view, but for now purely speculation.

Thanks again for your informative and valuable input, solarguy.

I pray that you're right, alexgr. We can only speculate as to how life will be at that point, but I hope there are truth is your words.

This is going to be a problem for most of the world this century. I think the people who were concerned with overpopulation had a very myopic view and basically missed this demographic "time-bomb" as some have called it. People have known about this issue for decades.

I think the real saviour here will be technology, both from the biomedical perspective in terms of life enhancement (as well as life extension) and also robotics. The combination of these two things will make old age much less of a problem.

Heya thecryptofiend. Yes, totally agree, the US as well as many other countries could be affected just as badly. However, China being the largest population currently also warrants much concern from us Chinese as a nation. As I'm sure you're aware, we tend to live with our extended families. Grandparents, even great grandparents all under one roof. So all members of the family will be directly affected in some way or another.

The worrying part for me is that this issue is actually a current one too. My family as well as my friends back in China are already dealing with similar issues. I see the struggles some of them are going through now. So I really hope that your vision of technology coming to the rescue comes to pass.

It might do but sadly I think the current generation of elderly people may end up suffering whilst they wait for technology to keep up. Japan seems to lead the way with this because they have been taking this issue seriously for a couple of decades but since everything is made in China I doubt they will be far behind:) Politicians will have to listen and put more government funding into these kinds of developments and care too since older people are some of the best voters so that is at least one positive as well.

Well said. My only worry is that at the end of the day it will boil down to governmental budgetary constraints, as funding may not be able to cater for everyone's needs.

Because of the sheer amount of people and services needing to be run all at once, which costs will have to be sacrificed? Even under immense political pressure from the people to solve this demographic crisis, it may well mean "cutting off an arm to save a leg." I see some tough decisions ahead.

2040 - I will be ~80 by then, and I don't really have any expectations of being able to retire, in the twentieth century sense. With twentieth century emotions, this might be frightening, but with all the new opportunities, not so.

Hey Richard. I believe this issue will not escape any of us. We are all living longer and therefore will require more types of care for our needs the older we get, but it's something I do consider about the future. Some care home stories that I've heard about honestly make me angry and frightened all at once!

Our world is changing so quickly with robots doing many things. Technology will probably play a big role in solving some of these concerning matters.

Hope so, team101. But let's say older people have difficulty standing, eating, washing themselves. This is something only a human can assist with for now. I wonder if the kind of care I'm thinking about can actually be achieved through technological advancement within the next couple of decades.

不是已经开始了吗?
关于老人养老的问题,用中药解决。
将来西药是吃不起了...

是啊,我更关心的是政府能否有效解决基本的温饱问题,当我们到达了老年人口比年轻人多的状况。

This is a problem in most developed and also developing nations. Even in Singapore, we are trying hard to encourage births.

Hey ace108. Totally, this is a global problem and just to set the record set, I empathise with all countries that have to deal with this. But judging from the amazing positive comments being received about possible ways round this , I'm starting to have a lot more hope! :)

Well yes, gradually a global issue and hope is good. We all need hope.

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