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RE: Why bother with circle jerks?
yeah but people always think of absolute communism when they think about socialism. I would never advocate that private persons cant own and gain. I just want it to be controlled, eventually even capped.
I thought it was unfair to claim all goals of socialism are achieved by eliminating poverty, but I think when it comes to 'taking from the rich and give to the poor' UBI is all we need.
This could be true. As long as those 3 concerns I mentioned don't kick in. Those in power always seem to come up with ways to exploit and corrupt even the best sounding ideas.