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RE: Goodbye Internet. Hello Intranet. UK Gov silences the rest of the world.

in #censorship7 years ago (edited)

I absolutely believe it. Theresa May is insane. She is the kind-of person who would "turn off the internet" during a terrorist attack.

We're the #1 most surveilled country in the world, China/North Korea only comes second to us.

Theresa May believes that we need to keep that #1 position, as if it's a good thing.

We're living in a society where your browser history isn't protected by law any more, it can be accessed warrantless by many government agencies including the NHS (our health care), the fire services, and many others.

To think it couldn't get to the point where we're cut off from the outside, is ridiculous. The conservative party, along with Theresa May, believe the only way to stop terrorism is to lose our privacy. Her reason for leaving the European Court of Human Rights, is clearly to drop "the right to privacy" which has been a roadblock to her invasive surveillance laws. I have zero respect for May or the Conservatives.

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Ok, so you are confident in your polemics. I got that. And yes, the UK government is certainly a snoopity snooping on her citizens.

But your "content" revolves around a Parade of Horribles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parade_of_horribles of what allegedly will happen unless we sack T. May. Please stick to the facts, present your case for surveillance and privacy problems, and produce content ripe for discussion.

I am willing to discuss issues. You make valid points and intersperse them with "she is the kind of person" sweeping generalisations and "zero respect" dramatizations.

What you posted here is just a rant and a diatribe. It's not interesting content.

It stinks.

You disagree that my pointed criticism will improve STEEM? Downvoted for poor and unreasonable content. Consider this my curation for the day.

Please stick to the facts, present your case for surveillance and privacy problems, and produce content ripe for discussion.

There's all kinds of "content" here on Steemit, and you'll find a lot of diatribe amongst it. I support your vote usage, do whatever you like, but I don't think a statement like this can be respected.

I also agree with you this is a little echo chambery, like you might find on Facebook. However it's perfectly valid to extrapolate that a government which has consistently moved to increase surveillance and internet controls, will restrict the kinds of technology which can be run on the internet, up to and including a Great British Firewall.

Why do you think this is unreasonable?

It's unreasonable because of the disconnected thought pattern.

We all have a tendency to jump to conclusions. But when that knee-jerk reaction in the author's mind (The Internet is going to be shut off any moment now!!) is disconnected with facts (The conservatives have pushed for regulation and censorship), then the author is guilty of fantasizing.

This diatribe is fantastic. It's fantasy.

Why debate fantasy?

I say it's fantasy because the author can show no proof of these predictions, nor could I assent or dissent from made-up, fantastic, unsupported speculation.

My point is that in order to have a fair and reasonable debate, we should at least have some framework, some rules, and some parameters. The alternative is to shout each other down, invent false premises and straw men, and fabricate things.

May the best un-sourced, un-attributed, un-founded speculation win?!?

My contention with the author's points of speculation are precisely that they are ... literally ... un-reasonable, meaning that they are supported with no reason, no reasoning, except as naked assertions.

My opinion is that the author needs to change the naked reasoning into clear and convincing reasoning. Then I will debate the premises and conclusions.

ECHO.... ECHO ... echo ... echo

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