Politicians are liars or corrupt by nature. True or False? Part I: Is this what "democracy" is about?

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I won't lie. The crisis in Peru has an impact that is actually not being noted in the world. Pedro Pablo Kuczynski was actually a president that was liked by most of the population on his country, before this corruption accusations were shown by the opposition politicians and the media.

I'll show two tweets about it that caught my attention:

As Rosa María Palacios said, PPK has an excellent profile to be president but he's a terrible politician.

Demagoguery and double discourse, as well as forms, are inherent vices of democracy. Much more in countries with educational deficiencies. The politician must lie.

Le Corvo Mécanique (@CorvoMecanique) March 21, 2018

Forced (to be corrupt) by complot of worse corrupt congressmen.

Unfortunately, and it was his mistake, PPK played to be South American without being so. And the trap did not come out.

The rats on the left are the ones that know well of that.https://t.co/LDpT8WDQ7Q

Caballo De Calígula (@incitati47) 21 de marzo de 2018

Ok, now I have a couple questions:

Do politicians really need to lie?

Does only South America have educational deficiencies?

Is this government system (predominant in the western countries) really a democracy?

Do we really know what democracy is about?

I'll try to answer these questions with some helpful resources.

Q1. Do politicians really need to lie?

If you watch this video from 5:30 to 7:49, you can analyze the answer to this question:
(You can select English Subtitles).

So, the video pretty much tells us that yes, politicians really need to lie. It's the common way for them to get into power. The political party system is created to preserve the status quo. It's common that honest people of good intentions who could to lead a nation get hammered by others that have the interests of the political party first instead of the will of the people. And those are the ones who get on top. Pedro Pablo Kuczynski really was a good president, until this scandal came out, but he was a bad politician. He didn't really know how to tell a lie.

Q2. Does only South America have educational deficiencies?

Most of the countries in the world have educational deficiencies. But the core problem is that we are educated to obey, not to raise awareness by using our critical thinking. The prussian education system encourages it.

Just read this quote:

The Prussian mind, which carried the day, held a clear idea of what centralized schooling should deliver: 1) Obedient soldiers to the army; 2) Obedient workers for mines, factories, and farms; 3) Well-subordinated civil servants, trained in their function; 4) Well-subordinated clerks for industry; 5) Citizens who thought alike on most issues; 6) National uniformity in thought, word, and deed.

The area of individual volition for commoners was severely foreclosed by Prussian psychological training procedures drawn from the experience of animal husbandry and equestrian training, and also taken from past military experience.

The Underground History of American Education - John Taylor Gatto

So, we're educated to obey, to follow leaders, not to think.

Q3. Is this government system (predominant in the western countries) really a democracy?

Let's watch the end of the video (After the 9-minute mark) that was shown above (Again, there are subs in english available):

So, we're calling democracy something that it's not. That's why this term gets all this bad publicity. Most SJW say "power to the people", just to get elected and then they take power from them.

The core problem is not the politicians, it's the entire political system.

All that is left is to answer the last question:

Q4. Do we really know what democracy is about?

There's another video from the same YouTube account that explains it. But, to be sincere, it deserves an entire post to talk about true democracy. All I say is this: True democracy is very difficult to achieve in this century. It would need a big worldwide revolution. But with the rise of cryptocurrencies and the decentralized blockchain systems we can really make a difference this time.

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governments are insane...all of them.

@everittdmickey stay tuned by the part II of this series.

It would be interesting to us to know how True democracy would work.

true democracy can only work within the monkeysphere

democracy can work if and only if every member of the democracy personally knows each and ever other member of the democracy.

And that's possible with decentralized power. There's a lot that could be decided locally that it's decided for an entire nation.

nations (governments) are insane.

I think Democracy is just an Illusion about people thinking they choose. But all the elites have their systems and is very difficult those systems fall through elections. Sadly but true.

@arepadigital, There is no such thing as a democracy in any country in the world.

Stay tuned for part II of this series.

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Governments should be as limited and local as possible. The more centralized a government is, the worse the problems are going to be.

Agreed! stay tuned for the second part of this series. True democracy is not easy to achieve, and with the help of decentralized systems and a big change in education can be achievable.

Agree in everything except one thing; PPK. I don't think he was really very honest or desirable, it was just the least worse of the evils. It is similar to Macri in Argentina, or even Radonski in Venezuela, practically choosing between a lesser evil and something ten times worse.

Look, the guy wasn't perfect, he was a lobbyist, and lobbyists are prone to take advantage of any government, we can agree on that. But as President he had good ideas and policies and Peru was way better with him than his predecessors, he pretty much tried to save his butt bargaining with the congressmen and he blew it. He was pretty much a centrist that was between the extreme right (Fujimorism) and the left.

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Plato, living in Athenian democracy at its height, criticised democracy as the worst form of government. In democracy, the political incentive structure rewards not those who are best able to govern, but those who are best at rabble-rousing to get elected. The entire purpose of political establishment is perverted into a popularity contest, undermining the very intent of the political exercise (or perhaps popularity circus is the intent of democracy).

The true distinction bewteen political governance is central autocracy vs regional authority. Centralized democracy is not much different from a centralized monarchy, except centralized democracy has sociopolitical horizon reaching only to the next election cycle, whereas monarchy has at least a 10-year planning perspective. Modern Western religion of democracy produces zealots who blindly believe in their meaningless and worthless ballots in choosing between two crimminals, as the solution to sociopolitical problems reaching back to the dawn of time.

@soo.chong163 stay tuned for later in the day. I'll share with you the concept of true democracy. You will be impressed.

I agree with you said that is happening now. The only thing is that people is calling "democracy" something that really isn't.

CorvoMecanique Le Corvo Mécanique tweeted @ 21 Mar 2018 - 19:19 UTC

Como decía Rosa María Palacios, PPK tiene un excelente perfil para ser presidente pero es un pésimo político.

La… twitter.com/i/web/status/9…

incitati47 Caballo De Calígula tweeted @ 21 Mar 2018 - 19:08 UTC

Forzado por la picada de culo de ser vacado por otros corruptos en primer lugar.

Lamentablemente, y fue su error,… twitter.com/i/web/status/9…

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A pure democracy is one of the most dangerous forms of governance precisely because if a politician (or anyone) can get 51% of the populace to agree to something, it is considered justifiable to force the other 49% of people to do something they do not want to do. That is why there are republics and representative democracies populating much of the planet and zero pure democracies.

The principle of democracy that delegated powers can be used to force compliance is, in its essence, immoral. If it is immoral to use force against someone who has done no harm, it is equally immoral to delegate authority to government to do so.

Based on your line of questioning thusfar, I think what you are really looking for is Voluntaryism. Why is Voluntaryism not taught in schools or part of the curriculum in the vast majority of political science degrees?

Thanks for your comment @cupidzero. You have strong valid points that I agree on.

The core of this post is about how can we solve the problem of having elected officials that exercise power against the will of the people. Partisanship, populism and education are the main issues that have to be addressed.

I bring these topic of True Democracy, to see what aspects from it would be positive in order to have a better political system these days. I acknowledge that there has to be boundaries that have to be put between people and their representatives, and mostly are addressed in Constitutions. That is a definetly a main aspect of republics and I fully support it.

But I think the main flaw of the actual political system is how can we as citizens make our political leaders accountable. And probably giving power by electoral contests is not a good thing if most of the people are not well educated.

Agree! I am working on accountability right now for my series on Voluntaryism, should be interesting.

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