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RE: Steem Retention Rate: What Are The Facts?

in #busy5 years ago

i don't really understand the numbers or to be more exact what they represent and why should we care that much for specifically these numbers as i believe the problem lies elsewhere. I'll try to be more clear and explain what i mean.

Sure it's really important to count the number of visits we have in daily,weekly,monthly basis as we can understand and see how popular steemit is but how accurate those numbers can be?

Also, remember that if you connect from a different device (home/work computer, mobile phone, tablet) you will count as a "new visitor" on each of these devices.

You will also count as a new visitor if you delete the cookie, change the ip address which can be easily done if you are using wifi from cafeterias,restaurants,free town wifi etc etc. There is also a maximum visit length for all the people that don't have an account and i don't know the timeline it is set. If for example is 5 minutes, every 5 minutes it will count as a new visitor, if it's 6 hours then every 6 hours and it goes like this. There are also more ways that the number of visitors can be misleading but let's go with the above for now.

Now let's go to the 50k daily active users that i think is way more important to know the exact number as we can understand better what we missing and where some "problems or answers" lie. As we all know by now and you mentioned in your post too this number is tied with the every transaction. That means that if someone does a simple upvote,comment,resteem,buy/sell,power up/down,reply,post etc etc will count as an active account.

From that number i think it will be ok to exclude around 10k (most think it's more) that are bots and atl accounts. So we are left with 40k daily active accounts. Here is the catch A lot of people for many reasons use autovoting services and curation trails. Where does this leads? The answer is simple: to be counted as daily active users even though they might be in a deserted island with no internet connection! My speculation is that the daily active accounts are around 10k even less

Now if we check a little back at the netcoin's contest that was hugely promoted by anyone even in the form of rewards/upvotes for simple votes which attracted a lot of people that are characterized by this phrase "good post sir", we can clearly see that there is something in common. In that contest were the average person voted 3-4 times the total result shows that the actual users that voter were less than 10k

In other words the reality show us that the actual daily active users are around 10k or less. Those users are the way we can get more visitors but first we need to find ways for more engagement, dapps are a good solution in an extend but users need to bond more. Finally, if we had 80k visitors per day and exclude the daily active steemians why nobody registers? The stats show that the number of daily active users is quite stable between 49k-52k . Thus i highly doubt that we have 80k of visitors in daily basis or that we should care a lot by that

Sorry for the long post

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"Sorry for the long post"

You relayed some good information and thinking highly relevant to the discussion, and I can't imagine doing it with a shorter comment.

Thanks!

Totally agree with you.
500k looks totally inaccurate to me. Especially if you don't have the main source to do some traffic analysis.
10k or less seems more realistic.
Big hug
Steemitri The Mannequin

thanks for checking it out! (cause i think mostly nobody else did :P)

Your comment was super interesting, and you should write some kind of reply-post ;-)

i don't like doing reply-posts it reminds me of diss tracks :P Also, i consider it a lost case cause mostly nothing gonna change. The fact that the person who am actually commenting on his post a long-ass comment that thanks to you and another person is the first comment and still don't get a response shows me exactly that. I will pretend that he is busy and will reply later (till the 7 days payout, or after see this comment as well :P) but i highly doubt that. I have also made 1-2 comments like that to people with a bunch of sp and same again nobody replied, there is nothing more to say i will just basically stop commenting to their posts!

Yep! I know exactly what you mean ;-)
I was thinking... "Why is this guy - @taskmaster4450 - not replying to this comment... and to all the other comments?!?!" ... lost case, you are right!

hehehe i see what you did there :P

Also, i wanna suggest to take the comment upvote back cause after hf20 if the upvote worth 0,01$ then it goes back to the reward pool (so nobody wins :P), only in post worth even if it's 1cent. I use to vote mostly every comment too but now with the extreme drop in prices even my 0,02 will soon become 0,01, so you if you will take back and use them to post of some other person, it will surely add value than way!!

Thanks ;-) I will try to avoid that.

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