To Bot, or Not To Bot. That Is the Question We Need to Ask.

in #bots6 years ago (edited)

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Voting Bots, ReSteem Bots, and Curation Bots. Steem is becoming a digital Jetsons home. In the iconic cartoon 'The Jetsons', it seemed that they had a bot for everything. Wash the clothes, clean the house, cook the food. You name it, and there was a Bot to do the job. All created to make things easier for the family.

Steemit and the STEEM Blockchain are becoming more and more like an episode of the Jetsons. Anymore all we have to do to get any 'WORK' done on the platform is push a few buttons and 'PRESTO' Curation, Voting, and ReSteeming is done for us. Just like the Jetsons.

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Now I have done my fair share of Botting on the platform. I have used the most popular voting bot, and the only reason I stopped was with the rise in the value of both SBD's and STEEM it just did not make sense anymore. I have also used many of the ReSteem services. Although I have never used a curation/comment bot. While using them I thought they were a great service to have on the STEEM Blockchain. It seemed that they were providing real value to everybody. But again with the rise in the value of STEEM and SBD's I have stopped using them.

I guess that the main question about Bots on Steemit, is “How Much Value Do They Really Give?” Looking at it from a customer of the bot's perspective I have concluded that Bots are good and do in fact offer real value to the STEEM ecosystem. As long as the users themselves are willing to accept the cost. But there is a much bigger picture and a much bigger effect that the bots have.

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When Steemit and STEEM were created, it was envisioned that folks would Blog/Create content and other folks would read and interact with the Blog/Content. Folks themselves would then decide how much value to give to it by upvoting/downvoting and resteeming. They could then give added value by commenting on the Blog/Content as well. Those folks that did this were called Curators. In return for taking time and effort to actually curate this content, they would then be rewarded by sharing in a portion of the value that they had given it(STEEM/SBD). Great Idea. Only with Bots, this is not working. Instead of actually reading a post and then DECIDING to either upvote or downvote a post one at a time, we tell the Bots to just upvote or downvote everything by that creator. Some Bots even post a pre-scripted comment to make it appear that the post was read. The biggest problem is that these bots actually lessen the intended interaction with a post. If a post can be both voted for and commented on by a bot, then where is the HUMAN interaction that gives the REAL value to any post. Can a Bot give value if the post was not actually read or even seen by a human being? I think not.

That brings me to the ReSteem bot. This Bot is a little different. Its intention is to put a post before more eyeballs. That means more human interaction, so long as the bots account actually has a majority of active human followers and not other bots then this one is actually good for the platform.

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One other behavior I have observed with the users that use bots on a regular basis is their interaction levels have for the most part decreased. Myself included. We are actually posting less and commenting even less. We have in effect become valueless to the Blockchain. So we may have started to use bots so that we could have more time to interact with the Blockchain, but in reality, we have begun to backslide.

In conclusion, I can only suggest and advise that if you wish to continue using bots, that you do it sparingly and be mindful of the fact that you must continue to interact with the Blockchain in order to remain relevant. Go out and welcome new users. Explore the tags. Follow people. Never Stop COMMENTING.

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This post was inspired by a comment on another post by @anthonyadavisii. Go check out his blog.

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Hi @troyvandeventer,

I think one of the deciding factors on whether a automation or bots is good depends on the motive of the user and whether they consider the wider scope of impact. I fear many do not take this sort of thing into consideration when it comes to profit.

My reasoning for not desiring bid bots in the system is it has a tendency to put other users at a disadvantage especially considering when bid amounts exceed the weight of the bots upvote. Also, I consider the impact these services have on curation. If we have high powered bid bots that can easily bring a sub par post to trending, isn't this counter to the efforts humans are putting in towards manual curation of quality.

One ideal that I hope would be realized on Steem is that of users having an equal voice where it doesn't matter if you are a plankton or a whale that if you bring quality content that you will receive a fair reward. I think bid bots get in the way of this becoming a reality because the one with the deeper pockets can just buy upvotes irrespective of the quality of the post.

On the flip side, automated solutions can and have been used for good. They can be used to filter content by criteria, autofollow mutual follows, and facilitate comment contests among other things

Thanks again for the mention and the detailed write up!

Very good post
@anthonyadavisii

I am in agreement with your assessment of things relating to bots in general.

I guess where I would take it a step further is to call bots a work around for the Steemit platform. I haven't used one myself yet (a bot did upvote a post of mine once, though), and I would rather keep it that way.

But I do understand why people use them and I sympathize. As a plankton or minnow, your work just doesn't get in front of enough eyes. I don't blame anyone for wanting that to happen.

But then once they're used, it just becomes a part of the routine, even when you're a dolphin or an orca, so where does it ever stop?

There must be a better way.

What happens when Velocity is here and gone and people are coming on board by the hundreds of thousands? If it's hard to get noticed now, what's it going to be like then?

In the meantime, I suppose we keep writing about these things that need a better solution in hopes someone with a little more oomph than us will see it. I know they have to be aware of it. I know they're trying to address it with HF 20. And things are better after the last HF, so maybe HF 20 will do even more.

It is my opinion that all bots exist to abuse the curation rewards. These rewards are designed to incentivize quality posting and thoughtful curation. I understand why people would want to use them but I think any use of bots is an abuse of the Steem blockchain.

For the most part, I believe you are correct.

Hi Troy,

After reading your post, I think that I may have worked out where we differ. I suppose I may have oversimplified the use of bots as only beneficial.

I agree with the point you made regarding human to human interaction. Ideally, people would read a post and vote, comment, follow, or resteem themselves based on whether it appealed to them. Having bots vote on your behalf or purchasing bot votes doesn't mean the content is good. Sadly, I've seen a lot of rubbish that's been either resteemed or upvoted despite poor coherence and mistakes. I've discussed this before and I just struggle wanting to upvote this kind of content (even if I liked the message). To me, it's saying this is good quality when it isn't. I'd prefer to leave a small comment asking them to proof read and edit and possibly use grammarly etc. to help them.

However, you say that after using bots you use the platform less. For me, it has had the opposite effect. When I've bought votes for my work, I get closer to tops of trending tag pages, my following is increasing gradually and I've had more comments to respond to on my own work than I have before. So I'm just not sure I understand why you would be interacting less.

Thanks so much for flitting by my blog and reading my bot post. It encouraged me to check your work out and now it's got us both interacting! And wasn't more human interaction your goal?

Maybe you're a bot and the joke's on me!

Take care,
Nick

This is very true well said @troyvandeventer. Bots are used to make everything easier for whomever is using them.

You gave us a brilliant example with 'The Jetsons'. This isn't only on Steemit but in reality where there is technology bots will be there. We can see this everywhere on Steemit, Games and even in our daily lives.

Most people are on Steemit not for human interaction but for financial gain which is why many people accept and embrace bots here.

The beauty of Steemit is that everyone here can do whatever we want and this of course includes the use of bots. The only thing we can do is remind people that we are still a community here and human interaction is more valuable than that of bots

Once again, brilliant post.

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