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RE: Don't be a useful idiot -don't be a feminist
I don't think it is fair to vilify an entire movement by one woman's actions. I'm not defending her at all, I think she was completely wrong to have said what she said. However, you are making the claim that feminism = Linda Sarours = wrong. That is inherently an ad hominem argument.
Also, what do you mean by the term "useful idiot?"
yeah - where did I mention sarours in my post?
(you probably know pictures are displayed to convey a general idea, right?)
??!??! where is this claim?
Someone who is susceptible to propaganda and is cynically misused in a belief they are supporting one thing, while actually being used for another altogether.
eg feminism is an arm of marxist ideology posing as equal rights for women.
The 'useful idiots' are the feminist supporters thinking they are 'supporting feminism', and not a left wing marxist agenda (which is the reality)
You seemed to imply you were referring to the Sarours news story as the topic of conversation between you and your friend. The ad hominem argument would be attacking the feminist argument as a whole on the basis of one feminist's misdeeds.
I do think there are a lot of "toxic" comments being put out by feminists but I think there are a lot of good, honest ways to create equality. I think a lot of it happens through allowing women equal access to education, which is something that many Muslim cultures fail at.
Equality is an abstract concept - how can can you create an abstract concept?
Just this question ,and then we can move forward..
Equality is abstract and relative but still meaningful because of the relativity
do you think moral relativity is a 'thing' ?
a/ sarours was the news topic
b/a certain style of razor is better than others for female genital mutilation
c/ the optimum number of adults to hold down a young girl for circumcision
d/ an optimum size of stone and distance away, to throw the stones at adulterous women
....or we could talk about what I said in the post, rather than any inferences.
Have you read saul alinsky?
I have not! I've read a few authors who compare feminism to Marxism. There are similarities for sure.
why not? read everything....
it is a product of, not similar to...
I try to! This has been a spirited debate. If you have not read Wendy Brown I highly recommend it - she has theories about capitalism and feminism that I think you'd find interesting.
ok, thanks for that.