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112.jpgRecently I've been researching about the infamous 5G technology and trying to learn what other people have to say about it.

And it seem to be quite a hot topic.

INTRODUCTION

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On one hand we are being offered a great solution, one which would allow us almost limitless speed of communication. So called "internet of things". In theory, once you're connected to a 5G network, you should be able to download large files (movies etc) within a split of second.

Admittedly it does sound very impressive and at first glance this solution seems to be a natural direction that technology is moving towards, but we should bear in mind that there are some RED FLAGS which makes me feel a bit uncomfortable about the development of this technology.

And I would like to discuss some of those "red flags" hoping to learn some opinions as well coming from more knowledgeable and experienced people here on Steemit.

5G AND OUR HEALTH

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So far we know that a great advantage of the 5G technology is pretty much unlimited speed.

However, on the other hand, I've learned that absolutely no one out there seems to be aware of the fact that this technology would have an impact on our health. What kind of impact could it possibly be? I've seen many influencers sharing their concerns and some of them suggesting that in the long run those exposed to 5G (living in close distances to antennas) may suffer awful health side effects. Apparently, brain cancer is one of those possible risks.

Since there is very little (or zero) official research backing up the safety of 5G, I think we can assume that no one will know for sure how this technology could impact our health. One thing for certain, is that it's in our all best interest to get interested in this topic, in hopes that regulators will step in and help to ensure our safety.

Naturally, I would love to hear your opinion on that particular issue, but my main focus for discussion would be mostly related to the amazing (or perhaps deadly) combination: AI + 5G

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, BLOCKCHAIN and 5G

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I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert when it comes to either AI, blockchain or 5G.

I'm very passionate about those technologies and right now all I have to say is simply my own "little speculation".

For several months I've been following different aspects related to the development of blockchain and AI. I've learned already that projects similar to DBC (DeepBrain Chain), Singularity or effect.ie are using blockchain for many different purposes.

In very simple words: merging those two technologies (blockchain and Artificial Intelligence) will allow AI to "outsource" computing processing power to global networks. This way major problems (cost of processing data) will be partly solved. Blockchain right now may still be to slow to be considered a permanent/solid solution, but what matters is that this solution (outsourcing processing power) brings new opportunities for AI and it's just a matter of time to speed things up.

Another challenge that not many people seem to talk about is the fact that the current "speed of communication" between AI is a thousands times slower than the speed of processing datas itself.

Just imagine being able to "think" very fast but if you would want to exchange processed information then you're entering a super slow-motion mode conversation.

How annoying would it be? :)

Can 5G be a real improvement in this industry? Possibly. I can only hope to start a discussion with those of you who are tech-savvy and wouldn't mind sharing your knowledge.

SHARE YOUR OPINION

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I cannot stop wondering if 5G is indeed what we need.

How can it improve our lifestyles and what could be potentially cost and consequences of this technology.

Would the speed of transferring data also be a breakthrough for Artificial Intelligence? I seriously believe we're entering a very interesting and possibly terrifying times and the best we can do is to build our awareness.

Regardless on weather we care about AI or not, or about 5G, those technologies will become part of our live eventually, the way mobile devices did.

Yours, Piotr

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I have maintained that blockchain tech is the management/logistical tool necessary to scale AI tech. Now 5G is interesting. It would seem, like what HTML5 did for video and tackling the YouTube issue, 5G will do for VR. After all, the selling point is AI and VR.

Now, I have not investigated 5G, so I found it helpful that there are already publicized health concern. Better tackle the problem now than go through seemingly endless update to HTML4 before finding a solution. Especially when it comes to physical (or brain) health, rather than, mere annoyance.

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Greetings dear @crypto.piotr.
I apologize for my tardy response.
We have just left a total Blackout in Venezuela: more than 100 hours without power supply.

As I made reference in a comment to @neavvy, I would love to see the application of AI in a system that allows to optimize the energy distribution in a nation.

Through AI we can study the consumption patterns of a region in order to obtain a better energy performance.

Efforts should be made to develop a system that allows self-sustainability.

This reflection comes to me, because being without electric power, I could realize the dependence we have. All our cryptoactive, our tokens, our wallets would become nothing because they do not have electricity.

Regarding 5G technology.
When reading this publication I could verify that what this technology offers is Velocity. And it's sensible, because that's what we want when we talk about communication.

Holochain
I had not heard of this platform.

But closely related to this I think that the advantages offered by existing networks, whether blockchains or not, should be taken advantage of to make a global interconnection that allows the AI ​​to go further.

A couple of days ago I had a conversation with a dear friend of mine and he told me about "Quant Network". Although AI does not appear among the objectives of this company, its principle could well bring real benefits. Since they have an Operating System for the interconnection of Blockchains. This captured my attention and I've been with this idea for several days in my head. Fascinating!

Dear @juanmolina

It's so great to hear from you again. I already landed in Poland a while ago and I've been quite busy catching up with family and friends.

But at the same time I've heard about your lack of electricity within past few days and I was honestly worried about you @fucho80 and @lanzjoseg like crazy.

more than 100 hours without power supply.

I can only imagine how difficult it has been for those who were in the hospitals right now. It must be a real nightmare :/

Through AI we can study the consumption patterns of a region in order to obtain a better energy performance.

Wow. I never thought about it. Perhaps you could write a post on this topic and publish on your own profile? I would promote it and also I would transfer some pocket STEEM to you as a small support.
(luckily price went up)

All our cryptoactive, our tokens, our wallets would become nothing because they do not have electricity.

That is so bloody true! I bet most of us cannot even imagine scenario of not having electricity. And in case of blackout ... we end up without anything having any value. Darn...

he told me about "Quant Network". Although AI does not appear among the objectives of this company, its principle could well bring real benefits. Since they have an Operating System for the interconnection of Blockchains. This captured my attention and I've been with this idea for several days in my head. Fascinating!

That could be another amazing topic :) I seriously would love to hear about it :)

Yours
Piotr

I am also glad to hear from you dear friend.
I will gladly try to please you in this proposals that you have made to me.

I guess many of the blockchain technologies are in the proof of concept phase only, they are not even touching the industry phase where companies can see relevant stake and actual implementation.

We need to wait more to see other technological development will support blockchain developments.

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I think 5G needs to be looked at closely. A lot of people are saying it is not so good to humans. But it makes money and is the future, and those who own it live far away from it. I'm writing a small post about the outcome of this tech if it is not kept from harming us...

PS, there is an alternative to blockchain and that is holochain.

Thanks @wales

Guys (@neavvy, @juanmolina) have ever heard about holochain? I never did ....

Thank you @wales for your comment.

A lot of people are saying it is not so good to humans.

It's surely hard to tell what is the truth. Is it really bad or is it not?

I can only hope that more politicians and regulators will get involved and regulate this industry, before it's to late.

I'm writing a small post about the outcome of this tech if it is not kept from harming us...

Is this "Step this way for machine intelligence" ? Im gonna read it now :)

Cheers
Piotr

I think 5G will usher in a new age of IoT. And imagine every ioT device can also be a node to process Block chain - making blockchain more persistent and “near”. Add AI into mix, and iot can be rented out even. The types of use cases will increase dramatically.

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Dear @sinlg

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

5G is very different than the other leaps forward from 1G to 4G. The difference is that the microwaves they will use have a very short range so there will be a necessity to have many more antennas in our communities just for the system to work. Even a person walking in front of the antenna could disturb the system. I just wonder what it would be like to have hundreds of microwave ovens, on at all times, blanketing our neighborhoods. Basically, health issues are real. That said, I don't know if it will be any different than what we have right now. Our communities are already saturated with high frequency wifi signals (just think about how many signals your phone picks up). Will 5G be any different? One thing is for sure, the technology will really start to take off. We will be able to do things that were never possible before, things that have yet to be invented. If you are wondering what I mean, think about how impossible it was to check your email on your phone before the first smart phones came out. A 5G phone will connected to a 5G network will be an entirely new device than anything anyone has ever seen before. That said, it may be time to move out of range, onto the farm, and get a flip phone :)

As I mentioned to @crypto.piotr, I have yet to investigate 5G. I gotta think that satellite tech is of a concern, and yet, this is the first time the word satellite appears on this post/comments.

Figured your reply was the best place to light this fire and see if there is anything to it.

I don't think that Satellites will factor much into the 5G situation. I am not even that sure that satellites do much really since 99% of all internet traffic is through under ocean cable.

https://www.vox.com/2015/3/13/8204655/submarine-cables-internet

I really think 5G will be extremely localized, the frequency is too short to be transmitted over large distances and since geo-sycronistic satellites tend to be at 22000 miles up in the sky, it may be impossible to transmit any form of internet considering the distances. I got to tell you the truth, I am suprised they work at all!

Have you considered the Bitcoin satellite network and our ability to put up working satellites that are smaller than the size of a fist? I am not sure how it would work, but everything seems to be pointing to a leap in technological application.

Wow! That sounds cool! A private network off grid. I like it!

Yes, @matteopaints - thank you so much for this: you are so right - we already live in cultures where we are actively encouraged (or outrightforced) to live and work in conditions/ with materials that totally contradict our wellbeing - and adding another ton of whatever kind of microwave/ offense around us, is likely to mean nothing to big corporations who are profiting, nor even the average citizen, who is so profoundly entrapped by 'time poverty' and the need to be like everyone else, and to have what everyone else has... I personally cannot sleep in a house that has multiple wifi signals - like the blocks of small, modern apartments in the city that my brother lives in: there are around 10 or more full wifi signals operating, and my nervous systems starts shooting pains and prickles all around my being. I live in a medieval quarter with thick, thick walls, which keeps out the signals from mobile phones and other wifis... really important for me... <3 Damn right: move out of range, I agree!

I have a ringing in my ears, pretty much all of the time, they say it is normal tinnitus, but I wonder if it isn't related to all of the background signals that I am constantly surrounded by. (Now that I have posted this I will probably get ads for hearing loss!)

Oooh - that's not so good, Matteo - I'm hoping you find solutions to it.... I sooooo value the silence and the lack of background static around me here!

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Thanks, I’d like to enjoy the silence too😁

Hi @matteopaints

I love how responsive you are buddy,

Yours
Piotr

Well, AI and 5G are the two biggest issues of the technological future. We need to keep our eyes open on this one!

I love how responsive you are @clareartista :)

Cheers, Piotr

It's very happy-making for me, to have interesting topics like these to respond to! 😄

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What means 'time poverty' ?

It's the conventional/conditioned belief that we 'don't have time', or that we have to be somewhere else - the dissipation of our focus, our energy, our mental power, because we're taught to believe in the 'scarcity' of our time. Does this make sense? I'm passionately interested in how we liberate ourselves from this bondage to tension, and realise that we can be free by knowing that time belongs to us, if we learn to flow with it 🙏😊

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Thank you for your great reply @clareartista

I'm passionately interested in how we liberate ourselves from this bondage to tension, and realise that we can be free by knowing that time belongs to us, if we learn to flow with it 🙏😊

Oh, you must be strong believer in our human race :)

Yours
Piotr

Yey - you're welcome, @crypto.piotr! And yes - I am: I'm passionately interested in our potentialising our enormous creative potential! We're in a period of collective self-destruction, however, which needs to be turned around... Lots of work, lots of inspiring to be done!! I've just set up a new project collecting conversations around living-in-the-gift, which I think might be powerful.... www.livinginthegift.com <3

I'm not too worried about this.

It's not like they really are microwave ovens. Electromagnetic wave communications technologies don't need to be powerful only detectable. If 5G really does use less power then that's even lower energy radiation anyway. Ever increasing efficiencies of detection technologies drive down how bright antennas must shine, and the less juice it takes to fling your message the less each byte costs. Also, the closer antennas are together the dimmer they can be to communicate as per the inverse square law, all other things being equal.

It's not like it's ionizing radiation. We're all currently bathed in quite dim microwaves from just the background radiation, and every living thing ever has been too.

I hope you are right!

I absolutely love your comments @a-non-e-moose

Dear @matteopaints

Thank you for your amazing comment. I appreciate. I believe I never had a chance to interact with you before.

The difference is that the microwaves they will use have a very short range so there will be a necessity to have many more antennas in our communities just for the system to work.

That's very true. I've heard that every 300 meters. That would be quite insane.

Basically, health issues are real.

Indeed. And it seem that most advanced countries will be testing this technology on it's population.

A 5G phone will connected to a 5G network will be an entirely new device than anything anyone has ever seen before.

I absolutely agree with you. Could you potentially see how this technology could be used within AI industry?

That said, it may be time to move out of range, onto the farm, and get a flip phone :)

Hehe I'm still nokia user :)

ps. would you consider using enter sometimes to separate blocks of text? it would make realding much easier :)

Cheers
Piotr

Yey to Nokia - I got my first smartphone a couple of years ago, and find it a lot more bother than it's worth... Takes a lot of energy to switch off all the notifications and inbuilt apps which I have no interest in being distracted by. I would never trust it to sit close to my body in a pocket, and cannot do phone calls of more than a few mins on it... :-)

Dear @clareartista

Thanks for your comment and for being so kind and responsive.

Cheers, Piotr

You're so welcome!

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Hey Piotr, yea I could see this technology being used for AI, it may be the reason that they are introducing it. For now AI is just a bit of an annoyance. I did an experiment recently with a bunch of 20 year olds, all who had their phones out. We talked for about a minute about Rugby, how much we liked to play rugby, that we wanted to buy rugby shirts, and tickets to Rugby games, it was all BS, but then, within a few hours, two of the guys got ads for Rugby on their phones. So, AI is definitly listening to our conversations already. I can't imagine how much more invasive AI will become with a 5G network in place.

Dear @matteopaints

within a few hours, two of the guys got ads for Rugby on their phones.

I've heard similar stories several times lately. Scary a bit.

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

Thanks!! You too!!

Excellent article @crypto.piotr. I am not sure if you are aware, but there is one extraordinary Polish AI project - Golem (I have once written about it for the Trivial.co platform).

So Golem is that it is a decentralized supercomputer and the biggest problem with it is that it needs to transfer computed data between nodes. This process may be very slow and take more time than the computing itself, which is really frustrating. When I have heard about 5G for the first time, I thought about Golem, as it could provide super fast data transfer for the nodes, ensuring amazing performance of the whole Golem system.

On the other hand, there are some Polish people organizing demonstrations and protests against 5G. I understand caring about our health and agree that we must be especially careful, but some of them treat 5G like another embodiment of satan! This is nonsense for me.

And big thank you for your recommendation!

Dear @neavvy

I wasn't aware that Golem has been created by Polish developers. Seriously? That's amazing!

When I have heard about 5G for the first time, I thought about Golem, as it could provide super fast data transfer for the nodes, ensuring amazing performance of the whole Golem system.

You nailed it :) We're thinking very alike buddy.

there are some Polish people organizing demonstrations and protests against 5G.

Oh. That's something new. Do you mind sharing link to any news about it?

Cheers
Piotr

@crypto.piotr

Here is sth about Golem:
https://www.spidersweb.pl/2016/11/golem-polski-startup.html

Here is sth about anti-5G demonstrations in Gliwice:

Dzieki

There’s no doubt 5G will change our physical and virtual landscape. However, it’s clear this technology comes with major health concerns too. The wave of the future may also mean a wave of new cancers, illnesses, and disabilities.

More research and studies need to be completed before the entire 5G rollout is complete. The potential health consequences associated with the 5G infrastructure is too great to ignore. If you can, stay in contact with your government and advocate for local control over where 5G mini cell towers are located. We must approach this new technology with respect and caution.

The present and future certainly mean a wave of new cancers, illnesses, and disabilities. There's nothing else to expect with how industry is poisoning the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the land we inhabit.

Advances in medical technology bring those things too, somewhat paradoxically. Those who would've stillborn a mere millennium ago get to lead lives of debilitation today for instance. With life expectancy increase you get more cancer. Every moment you live is a roll of the cancer dice. More moments, more snake-eyes.

If anything I'd hope better telecommunications would help us address these conundra more efficiently.

Those are the sorts of things I think government ought to contend with, if it's to prove some scant use in the ghastly face of itself. Not squabbling over where to put the antennas.

Leave that to the engineers.

Precisely.

Dear @whatsontrend

The wave of the future may also mean a wave of new cancers, illnesses, and disabilities.

That is very true. And it seem that most developed countries (the ones with money) will be the ones to test this technology on its population.

The wave of the future may also mean a wave of new cancers, illnesses, and disabilities.

Fully agree. We mostly need to introduce some solid regulations.

We must approach this new technology with respect and caution.

Very well said. Thank you for your amazing comment.

Yours, Piotr

Did you mean to repeat that first quotation? It reads a bit weird.

Hi @a-non-e-moose

I must admit that your comment made me a bit confused here ....

In the above comment you repeat "The wave of the future may also mean a wave of new cancers, illnesses, and disabilities."

That just struck me as a bit odd.

You're welcome 😊

5G should be stop as it is unneccesary and will also cause harm to humans as well as animals
as for ai i do not see any imminent threats

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Dear @khussan

5G should be stop

I think we're past stage when we could stop this technology.

What I know that 5G should be regulated somehow. Right now there is almost no regulations and zero health research has been publicly provided. And that doesnt sound reassuring.

Yours
Piotr

There has been a few observations though birds were dying near 5G testing areas dont know how it would effect humans 🤔

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Interesting article and something my sister recently brought up. I'm going to be researching this more personally. We are the public at risk and the implications could pose a large public threat for health. Thanks.

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Dear @wandrnrose7

Thank you for your comment.

Interesting article and something my sister recently brought up

You sister? wow. Usually only guys seem to be talking about those kind of topics. RESPECT :)

We are the public at risk and the implications could pose a large public threat for health. T

It seem that rich and developed countries will be testing 5g technology on it's citizens :) Luckily I'm not from rich and developed country :)

Yours
Piotr

Thank you @crypto.piotr for the respect. I am sad that humans are again being used as Guinea pigs for corporate greed. Cheers, friend.

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This will be good for the people who have access to it. Probably good to invest in 5G companies.

Thank you for sharing your opinion with us @danielfs

Probably good to invest in 5G companies.

Very true.

Yours
Piotr

I have seen many influential people share their concerns and some of them suggest that, in the long run, people exposed to 5G (who live near the antennae) can suffer side effects of great health. Apparently, brain cancer is one of those possible risks.

Excuse my ignorance, but if this technology can have side effects for humans. The ones we use now that have proven effects?

Since there is very little (or zero) official research to support the security of 5G, I think we can assume that no one will know for sure how this technology could affect our health.

We may not get to know what the effects on people's health, because there are millionaire interests in this matter and when we talk about money and millionaire profits both companies and governments often hide the damage that this represents.

Dear @fucho80

The ones we use now that have proven effects?

I'm not sure to be honest :) What I know that 5G should be regulated somehow. Right now there is almost no regulations and zero health research has been publicly provided. And that doesnt sound reassuring.

Thx for your comment. How have you been lately? You just went through some blackout in Venezuela? Hope your family is fine.

Yours
Piotr

Ok, it is always good to think about safety and health because we do not know what harmful effects this type of technology can bring.

Dear piotr friend, we are recovering from a 48-hour blackout in my area, there are areas in Venezuela that have been without electricity for more than 100 hours, this is chaos.

But to take it well my family and I made bonfires and dined around it, we sang and tried to bring everything well, for the children.

Thank you for your always pleasant comments, and if I do not answer it is because something is happening.

Right now the service was interrupted for approximately 3 hours.

Dear @fucho80

I'm so glad to see that you're well and safe.

ps.
check out latest post by edgarare1 - you may find his publication very interesting:
https://steemit.com/venezuela/@edgarare1/100-000-steem-for-venezuela

Yours
Piotr

Hello @ crypto.piotr, thank you for sharing your time with the Steem network to inform about the problems that 5G networks can generate.
There is a European guide for the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of diseases and health problems related to electromagnetic fields (EMF-EMF) I put to all readers, the link to the guide in PDF format.
http://www.peccem.org/DocumentacionDescarga/Cientificos/Declaraciones/170913_scientist_5g_appeal_final.pdf

Anyway I will try to get more information on the subject, maybe publish something later.
In the beginning it is believed from the scientific community that indeed the EMF-EMF networks could really be harmful.

Receive a cordial greeting 🤠

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Dear @olimiesma

Thank you for your great comment and for sharing this .pdf file. Definetly very valuable and detailed info. Appreciate.

Anyway I will try to get more information on the subject, maybe publish something later.

If you ever do, then please send me memo with link to your publication and I will be happy to check it out and show my support with little upvote :)

Yours
Piotr

Count on it 😉

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I just randomly voted for your post! Please give me a follow!

I think the health issue is real but it's not limited to 5g that's just an advancement in an existing technology. Daily we are surrounded by radio waves... think people talking on their phones, wifi, laptops, smart cars. We are living in an ever connected world with electromagnetic interference being ever present .

I think 5g is going to happen whether we like it or not. Personally I don't know if this technology is good or bad for our health.

Dear @safetony

Thank you for your great comment.

We are living in an ever connected world with electromagnetic interference being ever present .

Indeed. And it will only get more "intense" from what I understand. It really seem that most people here have similar concerns to the ones I have.

I think 5g is going to happen whether we like it or not. Personally I don't know if this technology is good or bad for our health.

Luckily it seem that developed and rich countries will implement 5g first, so this technology will be tested on those countries population first.

Cheers
Piotr

The only think I have heard about it was that they put a 5G tower on a fire station in Northern California for a test and all the firefighters got too sick to work with dizziness and disorientation. So they had to move the tower. I do not have details - I heard this on a podcast a few months ago.

Dear @fitinfun

I have heard about it was that they put a 5G tower on a fire station in Northern California
for a test and all the firefighters got too sick to work with dizziness and disorientatio

Wow. That is huge news. Im going to try to find more details about it. Thank you.

Yours
Piotr

The best place to research this is you tube. I know a lot of people are taking about it there, and I am sure this is where I found what I heard. You are in place that censors many videos though, so you might not find them. The eu is the worst for that.

They also have a health diagnosis of "cell phone cancer" in Finland and a couple other countries, I think. Brain cancer and then in your hip for people who carry them in their pockets.

Brain cancer exist even before without this modern technology sir. 5G is created to speed up data and we cannot deny the fact that this technology has increased the pace of our lives. Definitely technology also has negative and positive impact people before lived longer and now that is technology arises, average of age in human reduced. Technology invented to make the best of our lives in terms of improving ourselves.. I just wish that there are also technologies that can make us live longer.. A technology that has no radiation.. Could it be possible? Oh well, I leave that to an expert.. Please make a health friendly technology for us. Thank you sir for sharing this topic.. Take care

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Dear @cinderz

Thank you for your kind reply. I appreciate it a lot.

Brain cancer exist even before without this modern technology

That's very true. So you're not really concerned about 5G?

I just wish that there are also technologies that can make us live longer..

There are. Check out "Mahathir Bin Mohamad".

He is Malaysian Prime Minister, 93 years old. He has been treated number of times in Singapore and his old blood has been replaced with fresh blood. This treatment must be very expensive, but it makes miracles.

Just look how young this 93 old guy looks like :)

Yours
Piotr

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Wow! This is interesting to read.. Thank you sir.. About 5G, well, I don't concern much anymore because I don't have the power to stop it. 😂 Almost every year there are new mobile technology.. People are too busy making money about technology and they forget about how it affects our health.. 5G is a fifth generation and generation by generation technology evolve and ordinary people can't control that but we can control ourselves by not patronizing it if it isn't necessary for us.

As usual we put out a new technology and we don't know all the side effects of it. 5G could be a health hazard, but 4G might already be one as well. Even power lines can cause health issues. Years from now we might have gotten brain tumors just from constantly having a cell phone against your ear. Things that are thought to be great in the beginning have often proven to be detrimental after several years of data have been accumulated.

Dear @sevendust04

Thank you for your amazing comment.

5G could be a health hazard, but 4G might already be one as well.

Indeed. But from my understanding there is already tons of regulations around 4G and pretty much no regulations around 5G. And this is where I see major problem.

Yours
Piotr

AI, 5G all are tech breakthroughs. In all the world of man there are lives hazards. Electricity hazards, automobile hazards, aerodynamics hazards, food hazards, water hazards, house hazards, kitchen hazards, rain hazards, snow hazards, wind hazards GSM hazards. I can count more.
As long as there are people whose business it is to EAT, THINK AND SLEEP AND WAKE AND KEEP THINKING. We are bound to have NEW inventions.

My only concern on all these is that there are no enough education on how to minimize the health HAZARDS especially in the third world countries.

#EDUCATETHEWORLD

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Dear @praise-eu

My only concern on all these is that there are no enough education on how to minimize the health HAZARDS especially in the third world countries.

You nailed it. Building awareness is a MUST. And pretty much noone I talk to know shit about 5G. Literally zero. They only know that 5G will be faster. That's very little knowledge.

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

Sometimes I have read about this 5g technology and I have always been excited, but I have never read about the impact on health and it seems to be very worrisome.

Every new technology that is born always arrives with some negative consequence, it is important to always control these consequences before launching this type of innovations into the market.

Dear @roronoa07

Thank you for your kind comment buddy. I appreciate it very much.

Enjoy your weekend :)

Yours
Piotr

It's me again @roronoa07

How have you been doing lately? I noticed that you didnt post anything in quite some time already. Hope you didn't give up on Steemit yet.

Cheers, Piotr

Ciao @crypto.piotr, and thanks for linking me to this interesting dialogue! :-)
YEs, absolutely - as per health effects - not only the 'radiation' physical and energetic effects of living near the sources of 5G, but the very real issue of our increasingly addictive relationship with the 'fastness of things' and our conditioning to believe in and act from 'time poverty'- and in particular, the destructive mind-looping and shallow stimulus of having everything on demand; being able to consume at greater and greater speeds, but without real nourishment, wisdom, sharing of information even, behind what we're taking in. This will result in severe toxification of our minds and spirits, and immense apathy (already taking form) and inability to engage with our wills...

I see a distinct shift on conventional social media, and in folks' behaviour in the social everyday - the attachment to perpetual distraction: dissipation of focus and of energy - which in turn very much effects how we are able to interact with each other, and how we're able to function in the world. We are left in states of extreme vulnerability in this way: open to profound manipulation, as we are ungrounded and unable to keep our focus in our core, where our energy comes from.... just following whatever most grabs our attention: really becoming more sheep-like - even intelligent, unconventional folks...

Ultimately, everything has to swing to one extreme, before it is able to build the contrary momentum, to swing back towards equilibrium.. We are living in a very particular age, at the far side of the peak of patriarchal experimentation with all-of-life; we are sliding down the slope, gathering a great avalanche of change, whilst the old structure crumbles...
There are so many factors - environmental, spiritual, energetic, physical, psychological, to name just a few - in play, that it would be a god-mind who could predict where all this will go...! <3
I sense that some great aspect of planet, systems and humanity will have to eliminate itself, in order for something else (better/ more efficient/ less destructive) to survive (it's already self-destructing, self-sabotaging) ... Who knows how AI's logic will interact with all this; whether it might want to intervene, ultimately, or to take control as guardian of life....

PS I have no idea what Flappy Bird is <3

Hi @clareartista

thanks for linking me to this interesting dialogue! :-)

I love how positive you are :)
Thank you for your kind reply. I appreciate it a lot.

This will result in severe toxification of our minds and spirits, and immense apathy (already taking form) and inability to engage with our wills...

Indeed. Surely many people will suffer.

Your comment has been very mature and I value your knowledge and opinion already a lot. Would you mind sharing with me what do you do on daily basis? Just curious.

Cheers
Piotr

Dear @crypto.piotr

Good topic that you place worthy of investigation since these side effects can not only affect those who live near the antennas, it would be good to know the type of internal antenna that mobile devices should have, as well as the domestic tablet computers and desktop computers as this new technology will be connected, we must discard what we have and buy new ones.

there are many questions that are now born thanks to this article ..

I make a parenthesis. In Venezuela, in some cases, 4G technology works only and only in a cell phone operator, I believe and I am sure that as long as we have this government of communist criminals, Venezuela will not be able to use this type of technology.

tu amigo Lanz José

Another thing at the time of writing this comment I can say that in Venezuela at the national level we were more than 72 hours without electricity.

Dear @lanzjoseg

Thx for your comment. How have you been lately? You just went through some blackout in Venezuela? Hope your family is fine.

we must discard what we have and buy new ones.

what? why? I don't get it.

Yours
Piotr

Dear @crypto.piotr

Wow very terrible friend what happens in Venezuela nothing easy to cope with what we are living, We somentes more and more punishments have died more than 200 people for that power failure and more what they are killing just to protest.

Direct consequences of the collapse due to the National Blackout in Venezuela. More than 68 hours


I mean to change equipment for the implemetematios of this new technology, because the current teams may not support it. Example of cellular equipment

Dear @lanzjoseg

I'm so glad to see that you're well and safe.

ps.
check out latest post by edgarare1 - you may find his publication very interesting:
https://steemit.com/venezuela/@edgarare1/100-000-steem-for-venezuela

Yours
Piotr

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Welcoming any of these. AI infused with 5G and vice-versa is a great finds of human in a lifetime, with regards to health risk, brain cancer and cancers exists even before technology, the world has medical experts leave that to them, bring that tech on and let it be.

Dear @otom

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

AI development can proceed without 5G.

In the issue of health effects of 5g by vicinity of this transmitters, is still about to be proven.

Advocates of anti-5g technology should be collectively pouring their efforts to make a scientific study of it. Government policy makers should sponsor research on this area.

5g is still in the development stage. The technology can be adjusted.

I believe there is more hype to this issue.

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Dear @guruvaj

AI development can proceed without 5G.

True. But with 5G it will proceed probably way faster. All our mobile devices will indeed be able to communicate with each other in real time. And process all information also in real time. Something that current technology doesnt allow.

It's both amazing and scary.

Advocates of anti-5g technology should be collectively pouring their efforts to make a scientific study of it.

I absolutely agre with you. To some degree. What I know that 5G should be regulated somehow. Right now there is almost no regulations and zero health research has been publicly provided. And that doesnt sound reassuring.

I believe there is more hype to this issue.

Hype is needed. Only hype does bring attention of masses. And that in result usually bring attention of regulators and politicians. Which we need.

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

with 5G power can transmit wireless, Phone recharge only use signal... this is save electric bill

Thanks for your comment @azmielbanjary

5G failed because it needs a huge infrastructure to operate globally

Thank you @crypto-simple for sharing your thoughts.

Cheers, Piotr

It all sounds so wonderfull but I am 100% sure not everyone will have that high speed connection once it is there.

We already know its bad for our health just like microwaves and cellphones etc.

I lived in the neighbourhood of Gelredome in Arnhem (Holland) full of all kinds of mast/towers, etc but hardly connection to the internet or phone... trees full of tumors.

Birds drop dead where it is tested. But it will come for sure. Nobody wants healthy people. The pharmacy makes a great income, so do the governments and who needs us if there is AI?

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Dear @wakeupkitty

I am 100% sure not everyone will have that high speed connection once it is there.

I believe that at the beginning 5G will only be available in prime locations around the globe. Mostly in developed countries.

We already know its bad for our health just like microwaves and cellphones etc.

Those things are little. It's a bit like comparing home made molotov coctail to TNT :)

Living around microwave isn't such a big deal. Living near to antennas can be way more risky. And worst of all is that we can choose if we want to use microwave and smartphone, but we may not have a choice when it comes to 5g antennas. We may be forced to live next to them. That's not right I think.

Nobody wants healthy people.

Nobody nobody but you ... :)

Cheers, Piotr

Brussels says the whole EU.should have it within.a few years + free internet 😅 good joke... even in developed countries internet sucks

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How developed is a developed country?

Brussels says the whole EU.should have it within.a few years + free internet 😅 good joke... even in developed countries internet sucks

To be honest I also do not believe in the 'free' part of it.

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Hi @crypto.piotr good post as always. I am sorry that I have not been around lately. I hope you are fine and your superb project on Steemit is still growing :)
To the topic:

I honestly have to say that at this point in time I hvae very little knowledge on the new 5G network.

As far as I know, some areas around Berline (Germany) already experimenting with it and it is only a matter of time until they fully implement it there.
I believe that the infrastructure is not yet prepared to fully offer it on a national base. There are still areas around Germany where you have limited Internet (Edge).

It might be a tremendous improvement in speed but for now I do not really see a usecase. The LTE network is more than enough because most applications and streams run super smooth.

I would be happy if you would share your view on my thoughts.

Keep up the good work!
Best,
M

Dear @mcnestler

good post as always. I am sorry that I have not been around lately

Thank you for your kind comment buddy. I appreciate it very much.

Why aren't you around? Busy or bored with Steemit (hope not).

Are you from Berlin? I'm thinking about visiting this May.

I believe that the infrastructure is not yet prepared to fully offer it on a national base. There are still areas around Germany where you have limited Internet (Edge).

Indeed. I just travelled across Poland via bus and even 4g in many places / small towns is very weak.
It seem that rich and developed countries will be testing 5g technology on it's citizens :) Luckily I'm not from rich and developed country :)

Enjoy your weekend :)

Yours
Piotr

Hi @crypto.piotr,

Why aren't you around? Busy or bored with Steemit (hope not).

A little bit of both, but now I try to give it more effort again :) The mentality and the people around here are just very nice :)

Are you from Berlin? I'm thinking about visiting this May.

Sadly not, I am from Munich. But when you are planning to come to Munich let me know.

Dear @mcnestler

The mentality and the people around here are just very nice :)

Fully agree with you :)

But when you are planning to come to Munich let me know.

Why sadly? Apparently it's a beautiful place. But surely it's far from Berlin :)

ps.
You keep posting really quality content. Perhaps you could always send me memo with link to your publication and 2-3 sentences description ? I will gladly support you with upvote, will drop a comment.

Especially if your publication will be related to crypto,blockchain,AI, economy or psychology (just don't send me memos like every day hehe)

And if I will have some time then I will also share your publication with my larger audience and will help you get some extra traffic.

Please keep in mind, that you can count on my help (whenever I can support you, I will) :)

Cheers
Piotr

@crypo.piotr, thank you very much for your answer or your comment.

You keep posting really quality content. Perhaps you could always send me memo with link to your publication and 2-3 sentences description ? I will gladly support you with upvote, will drop a comment.

Thank you for your kind words i appreciate it. I will try to come up with good content. I am glad that you like it and I really like your support!!!

And if I will have some time then I will also share your publication with my larger audience and will help you get some extra traffic.

I'll try to prepare a real "banger" and come back to you ;)

Thank you

Lovely @mcnestler :)

Hi @cryptopiotr! It's hard to make final opinion about 5G
My vision that first of all all new technologies should be safe.
The next one moment again about healf that at current time most of us surrounded by intense electromagnetic field. And this can also affect us.
As an example, I want to tell you that one friend of mine who keeps bees lost half of their bees only because they put a cellular antenna near his house. And the bees could not stand it and flew away from the hive.
With regards to the connection speed, I do not think that everywhere 5G is so necessary. But in certain areas of human activity, this standard should be used.
Therefore, my opinion is that a well thought-out approach should be used in this ray and the use of the standard should take place only where it is necessary and in compliance with safety regulations for the people who will use it.

Dear @travoved

Thank you for your valuable comment. Indeed it's hard to make any opinion about 5G at all. Partly because of lack of research in that field.

I want to tell you that one friend of mine who keeps bees lost half of their bees only because they put a cellular antenna near his house.

WOW. That's my main concerns. Antennas. With 5G then will be everywhere.

With regards to the connection speed, I do not think that everywhere 5G is so necessary.

I believe that at the beginning 5G will only be available in prime locations around the globe. Mostly in developed countries.

Cheers
Piotr

Hey dear friend @crypto.piotr!
Sorry for late reply-
As I read your article, this is really thoughtful issue about developing 5G technique.So many people have to ready to face economical burden.
As new techniques are developing, the methods of working of a man are becoming easy but the problems are increasing.
I do not think 5G is so much needed because all the work is going on from 4G except for some heavy work. Those who need to do more heavy work, they use broadband. But for a middle class person 5G will not be less than any problem. If it starts from the beginning, after 5G launch, the person will need to change their handset. Its data speed will be so much that the person will have to pay more financially for unnecessary use.
Recently, I have read about some steemit in Venezuela about Active Bloggers, which is not in the position to pay the bill of the room and WiFi bills, yet they are active on this platform by managing somehow. Do they need 5G? It is not that 5G is a basic requirement without which work can not be done. I do not think many people will be in favor of this. Especially the middle class people who are living their life in some way.
Thank you.

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Dear @certain

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment. Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

5G health effects. It's like vaccines... No official research... The Only reason there is no official research is because big corps have smothered those that try to get the research in the public domain.

This has been coming for so long, even since the 1st cellphones came out and look up how Nokia treated the researcher that revealed there are problems.

Also it is very simple actually but jea (to test it's effects)! But how many corporations and government bodies has put their foot down a said: "We will start a program to test this"? None!

I'm beginning to think it is not even worth trying to show people how easy it is to program a brain because what's the use. Big corps and government keep on lying to people and people continue listening to their shit stories (laughing as a write this).

Dear @dpl

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

I'm beginning to think it is not even worth trying to show people how easy it is to program a brain because what's the use.

Building awareness can help at least some of us.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

@crypto.piotr I rant now and then man. Forgive me

Hi @crypto.piotr though 5g is still not available physically in any country but many countries are testing it and might roll on soon. As far as I know 5g will upgrade data speed to fastest and that speedy data will transform our daily use of internet.
I just imagine how our life is going to change once 5g and AI is available with full fledged infrastructure.
Appreciate your research buddy.

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Dear @alokkumar121

many countries are testing it and might roll on soon.

It seem that rich and developed countries will be testing 5g technology on it's citizens :) Luckily I'm not from rich and developed country :)

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

Good day, friend @ crypto.piotr.
As always I will follow your recommendations. So far you have indicated me very good readings that allow me to inform myself about issues that I do not manage, but I am in the blocckchain and I must learn about it.
The expectations about 5G are striking. I hope that its development is for the good of humanity.
Today, if the internet allows it (its operation is really bad, after the blackout to which we have been subjected) I will read @neavvy. The images can not open them. It's all part of the same problem. Staying active in Steemit is a great challenge at this moment in Venezuela, when everything contributes to the internet blockade.
A huge!!

Buen día, amigo @crypto.piotr.
Como siempre yo seguiré tus recomendaciones. Hasta ahora me has indicado muy buenas lecturas que me permiten informarme sobre temas que no manejo, pero estoy en la blocckchain y debo aprender sobre ella.
Las expectativas sobre 5G son llamativas. Espero que su desarrollo sea para el bien de la humanidad.
Hoy mismo, si internet lo permite (su funcionamiento es realmente malo, después del blackout a que hemos sido sometidos) leeré a @neavvy. Las imágenes no logro abrirlas. Es todo parte del mismo problema. Mantenerse activo en Steemit es un gran reto en este momento en Venezuela, cuando todo contribuye al bloqueo de internet.
Gracias por estar presente,-
Afectuoso abrazo
@mllg

Dear @mllg

Thx for your comment. How have you been lately? You just went through some blackout in Venezuela? Hope your family is fine.

ps. check out latest post by edgarare1 - you may find his publication very interesting.

Yours
Piotr

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Thanks dear @crypto.piotr.

We are o'k but life is not easy.
Every thing is wrong with electricity, water, gas, food, health, anything.

I'll visit him today. Thanks.

Have a nice day

A greeting friend @crypto.piotr. Excellent post. As usual, new technology is released and we do not know all the side effects of it. 5G could be a health hazard, but 4G could also be a health hazard. Even power lines can cause health problems. Within a few years, we could have contracted brain cancers simply by having a cell phone constantly against your ear. Things that are thought to be good at first have often proved harmful after several years of accumulated data.

Dear @surika

Things that are thought to be good at first have often proved harmful after several years of accumulated data.

It seem that rich and developed countries will be testing 5g technology on it's citizens :) Luckily I'm not from rich and developed country :)

Thx for your comment. How have you been lately? You just went through terrible blackout in Venezuela. Hope your family is fine.

ps.
check out latest post by edgarare1 - you may find his publication very interesting:
https://steemit.com/venezuela/@edgarare1/100-000-steem-for-venezuela

Yours
Piotr

every invention has an impact on humans for good or bad .. research should be done and weight the good and the bad ..

If you ask me it should not be stopped because I like fast internet

Thank you @bobskibob for sharing your thoughts.

And have a great weekend ahead. With fast internet :)

Cheers, Piotr

Every tech have there plus and minus we have to accept minus with plus

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Dear @freshindia

Every tech have there plus and minus we have to accept minus with plus

Indeed. I cannot argue with that.

What I know that 5G should be regulated somehow. Right now there is almost no regulations and zero health research has been publicly provided. And that doesnt sound reassuring.

Yours
Piotr

A nice observation and breakdown of how 5G technology might be harmful to the health. And seriously i think i will agree with you in a while due to your research but i would like to make more research to be able to confirm how true the information might be.
Nice work boss!!

Dear @adewararilwan

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

I think you mean Effect.ai

I don't quite believe 5G tech will have adverse health effects. The electromagnetic radiation should be the same as other techs, albeit a higher amount of power consumption should be expected.

Wikipedia talks about energy savings with 5G a few times actually. I find that pretty interesting given how millimeter waves are attenuated by the atmosphere.

Techs sure get cleverer and cleverer, eh?

Hi @ulqu3

The problem I see is the fact that 5g antennas need to be placed very near to each other (like 300m away) which means that we will be surely more exposed to effects of this tech. Whatever effects would it be.

What I know that 5G should be regulated somehow. Right now there is almost no regulations and zero health research has been publicly provided. And that doesnt sound reassuring.

Thx for your comment buddy,

Yours, Piotr

"...surely more exposed..."

What seems obvious often overlooks nuance.

The inverse square law, which describes how the intensity of long distance effects reduces with distance from their source (such as how a noise sounds quieter the father away you are), can be used to show that with a bunch of nearby antennas vs one far away antenna people in the operational area could be exposed to less radiation.

Also, I think many people are too spooked to hear the word 'radiation' in relation to electromagnetic waves. There's a big difference between ionizing radiation and non-ionizing radiation in terms of how they interact with biological systems. Non-ionizing radiation, like that used in these technologies, is quite significantly less dangerous to biological systems. Visible light is non-ionizing radiation. So is the life giving infrared light from a campfire, that keeps an otherwise frozen person alive.

I'm tempted to make my own post about multiple antennas, radiation exposure, and tangentially 5G, where I show the math I'm talking about for the inverse square law.

That might do better as a comment to this post though, or maybe just be too nerdy for anyone to care.

I like the robust discussion here! Thanks @crypto.piotr.

Dear @a-non-e-moose

I like the robust discussion here!

I really enjoyed that too :)

Cheers buddy, Piotr

Hello @crypto.piotr

I rode that it appears 5g is dangerous for health and environment..
Ok it has still to be proven.. nevertheless I am full of doubts (it is obviously only my point of view).

I like new technologies, but in everything we'd have to use philosophy too. If we are not able to control and contain it, if it is dangerous (like nuclear energy for example, that goes regularly out of control..),If we create and sell technomogies without being sure that it is really safe, just because we speculate in a very close futur, so it expose us to big health and catastrophic environmental problems.
Sure it is already the case, we live in a very catastrophic environmental shit.

But maybe governments and big business companies are trying to depopulate the planet and generating profit at the same time ..
I can't say for sure, but it looks like.
(after all we have, for example , Bayer Monsanto.. the "new" people, animals and nature exterminator, legally sponsored by governments all over the world .. cool.. just that fact says a lot about the state of mind of money people.. )
...
How much is it for a cancer? Big money..
I'll be really glad to be wrong.. but one more time it sounds like..

When technologies are made at the expense of health, life and common sense, for profit by denigrating the consequences then we can't call that evolution.

I hope 5g will not be an enormous (and extremely fast) pain in the ass.
(but I don't know why.. I am dubious like a motherf#@#$%..)

Peace
@skyblues

PS: please excuse my English, I am doing a lot of mistakes in this language and the style is probably a bit clumsy.
(But, come on, I will make some progress... :p )

Dear @skyblues

AMAZING reply. WOW.

I rode that it appears 5g is dangerous for health and environment..
Ok it has still to be proven.. nevertheless I am full of doubts (it is obviously only my point of view).

It seem that rich and developed countries will be testing 5g technology on it's citizens :) Luckily I'm not from rich and developed country :)

I would like to thank you for your valuable comment and for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely appreciate it.

please excuse my English, I am doing a lot of mistakes in this language and the style is probably a bit clumsy.

absolutely :) you mind sharing where do you come from?

Have a great weekend buddy

Cheers, Piotr

Hey @crypto.piotr

I am from France .
Regards

@skyblues

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Hi @skyblues

France? Land of revolutions? :)

Cheers, Piotr

Hi @crypto.piotr,

Yes let's say like that.. :)
But recently France is not in a good mood.. big crisis ..
A real shitty president and politics (they literally spit at the face of the people ).. No justice, (Sarkosy is still free ;) ...).. yellow jackets etc etc...
The situation is a bit complicate..

Peace
@skyblues

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