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RE: Statement from the @blockbrothers #3.

Hive is just run by a different set of oligarchs with the stake/money to do as they will. Steem is run by a set of 1 oligarch.

This is the only difference.

The problem is that massive stake/money is not a decentralizing metric. It is the opposite. DPoS cannot be decentralized unless some other means of influence is necessary to governance. Hive is being censored now, by a single individual who wields this power at his sole option, @themarkymark.

We who seek a decentralized blockchain will have to look beyond DPoS, because as Steem reveals all that is needed to completely centralize governance on DPoS platforms is a player(s) with enough money. All the capital of all cryptocurrencies is not a barrier to myriad parties should they seek control of governance of any platform.

Money is a shit decentralizer of governance. It is in fact a guarantee of plutocracy.

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Please don't pretend that flags = censorship. Flags remove monetary reward. You can still read every single post and comment that has been flagged. I know you are not stupid but you surely come off that way if you are equating flagging with the actual and literal censorship of entire user histories by filtering them out of the Steemit API nodes so they don't appear on any Steem front end. Come on dude.

Go to github #irredeemables list and rethink your comment. The Steem API, and now the Hive API, do not pass the posts of people on that list to dapps, like Steempeak and Peakd, that use their APIs.

That isn't downvoting. That's completely eliminating the ability to speak on dapps almost everyone uses, and can't access the blockchain data without.

That is absolute and complete censorship, far more than just deleting a video on Youtube. It completely prevents you from speaking to anyone at all. As far as anyone knows, you never posted at all.

That's what's going on over at Hive right now. That #irredeemables list is administered by @themarkymark all by himself. AFAIK, no committee of witnesses has to sign off before he censors someone. There's no community vote, or involvement at all. One consensus witness controls who gets to speak on Hive, all by themselves. The fact is that list was made to silence @fulltimegeek, who was involved in a dispute with Bernie over a 60 Steem refund @themarkymark sent to @null instead.

Today @joe.public is on that list. Why? Because he replied to thousands of spam messages Bernie sent out through his iflagtrash bot.

I am exactly talking about censoring using API nodes. That's what I am talking about. That's on Hive right now.

That isn't downvoting. That's completely eliminating the ability to speak on dapps almost everyone uses, and can't access the blockchain data without.

That is absolute and complete censorship, far more than just deleting a video on Youtube. It completely prevents you from speaking to anyone at all. As far as anyone knows, you never posted at all.

It boggles my mind that anyone even attempts to argue "but, hive no censor".

"but, hive no censor".

lol yea right

Money is a shit decentralizer of governance. It is in fact a guarantee of plutocracy.

Well stated.

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