Thank you for pointing out my mistakes about how the emails went down. I was wrong.

Okay so it's illegal. More reason to fix the problem. A shitload of site owners should get hit and punished then. Maybe half the internet? Let's just call them all scams.

I want to see more concrete evidence before I'd throw money at them, like many others.

What I think has happened is they made use of Marqeta's service and called it a partnership. I could dance around potential scenarios leading to that happening or my perception of it happening.

I see bad communication and bad communicators. Lots of PR fuckups in general. That indicates a likelihood it will fall apart and thus is not a good investment. I'm not ready to call arise a scam. I see the same stuff with Bitshares and people around it.

I'm chilling here on the fence before I pickup my torch. I need something solid and worth burning first. Straws will not do.